broomiesniper Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said: Is there potential for Arbroath to go full time or hybrid? Campbell has worked wonders at Arbroath and you could say, better the devil you know, He'd have kept Arbroath up this year again but the football might be rotten. A new manager might not keep you up and then you have to try and get back out a League one with potentially three full time teams in it. But he was going to leave sometime and maybe having groundwork in place for a replacement in advance would have helped. If Cove can do it the surely Arbroath can. Much bigger fan base but don’t have the balmoral group bank rolling the club I guess 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUAFC Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, clashcityrocker said: DC never had a good record in cup games, and ultimately it was the results in the last 2 cup games which resulted in his undoing Wow, just wow !! Do you honestly think that was it ?? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledLichtie Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Just now, broomiesniper said: If Cove can do it the surely Arbroath can. Much bigger fan base but don’t have the balmoral group bank rolling the club I guess Cove are a league below us and spend absolute pots of money. We are self sustaining. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hayshead2 said: NO THANKS. Selfish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledLichtie Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Just now, DUAFC said: Wow, just wow !! Do you honestly think that was it ?? I couldn't have put it better myself, what an absolutely mental take! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broomiesniper Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Just now, ExiledLichtie said: Cove are a league below us and spend absolute pots of money. We are self sustaining. Correct, do you not think Arbroath could sustain a hybrid model? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, Godlovessmokedhaddock said: Stewart Petrie is the new Kane Hester That money was just resting in his house. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1GregStewart Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 29 minutes ago, 1320Lichtie said: Just for the record and incase anyone else says this is anything to do with us being too big for our boots or some other shite. Arbroath as a club and the supporters have been as patient as a club and group of fans could possibly be. Frustratingly patient. Not one person is expecting us to recreate any of the success we had in season 21/22. We know fine well that was a one off. Personally I don’t even expect to stay in this league I know how hard that is to do as a part time club. However that does not excuse poor decision after poor decision that has been made since being in such a position of strength. From falling out with players, being incredibly stubborn with the way he treated Bobby Linn and the support over their frustrations at that situation, the horrific recruitment last summer which lead to the club having to appoint a recruitment team, the decisions he’s made in regards to the squad depth in certain areas of the park and the incredible decisions he can make on a week to week basis in regards to the way we set up and in particular the substitutions we make. Some utterly baffling decisions have been made over the course of the last 18 months. If we go down we go down. I do not care. All I care about is doing what’s best for the club and there is no way that sticking with the current vibe and set up is taking us any other direction than down. The decline has been incredibly steep since the summer of 2022 in many aspects. It would be careless not to try and do something different, as sad and as hard as that is to do. There is no way anyone can argue that Arbroath and everyone associated never gave DC the best backing possible and as much time as we possibly could’ve, if you think otherwise then you simply do not understand. In football success comes in cycles. A lot of it is luck unless you have an obvious advantage. Timing and the right blend of players ending up together. Your team has done incredibly well to survive this long in the championship and you rightly acknowledge it will come to an end at some point. 2022 was the pinnacle and there’s only 1 direction from moments like that. How far you fall eventually will depend how many stick with the club when the going isn’t good. I suspect it won’t be a fall like Cowden’s, more like Alloa’s. It’s very sad that it has ended this way with the Campbell's. It may well be their time to go but they deserve to end on a much better note than this. A bit of lack of respect from the fans, hopefully they are remembered for the great times and not a tainted ending. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRoundO Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, broomiesniper said: Correct, do you not think Arbroath could sustain a hybrid model? We more or less do. We have had a few English (and German) lads full time for the last two seasons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 20 minutes ago, broomiesniper said: Correct, do you not think Arbroath could sustain a hybrid model? Hybrid seems like the worst of both worlds. If Arbroath stay part time, eventually they’ll head back down the leagues. But whether staying in the championship is a big enough ‘prize’ for them to go full time is another matter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Feel like DC would probably better retiring. Bit of a dinosaur now and got away with it by virtue of being a good man manager. From the games I have seen Arbroath recently, their tactics are pretty agricultural and that’s fine if you are winning but, once you start losing, then fans easily lose patience. Great servant to the club and very entertaining for Scottish football. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Out of interest, what would the Arbroath manager pick up as a weekly salary 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kempes Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Just now, Aufc said: Out of interest, what would the Arbroath manager pick up as a weekly salary Asking for a friend? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledLichtie Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Aufc said: Feel like DC would probably better retiring. Bit of a dinosaur now and got away with it by virtue of being a good man manager. From the games I have seen Arbroath recently, their tactics are pretty agricultural and that’s fine if you are winning but, once you start losing, then fans easily lose patience. Great servant to the club and very entertaining for Scottish football. I would argue that our fans were incredibly patient. Its been a season and a half of terrible stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Aufc said: Out of interest, what would the Arbroath manager pick up as a weekly salary About a tenner and pack of cigs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, ExiledLichtie said: I would argue that our fans were incredibly patient. Its been a season and a half of terrible stuff. Thats what I was saying. His football has been poor and only lasted as long due to previous achievements. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kempes said: Asking for a friend? Just intrigued. Wouldn’t even know where to start with a managers salary at that level 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 It’s a very weird feeling. Wanting the guy gone for over a year and then it eventually happens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorie Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, DA Baracus said: Campbell turned 70 during the week. Is that him done in management? Or will he want to take another job? If he does can see him heading back to Forfar if only to replace McKinnon when he goes until the end the season 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonLichtie Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 I'm glad that everyone, even those who've wanted Dick out for some time, are unanimous in this being a sad day. The vast majority of Dick's tenure at the club has been filled with successes and for that we should be extremely grateful. The last 6 years have been some of the most successful in the clubs history. Over the past month, rightly or wrongly, the pendulum has swung for a majority of the fanbase and that was obvious to see today. I normally speak to 10-20 different people pre/ during/ post match and not one of them was fully behind keeping Dick as our manager, and many of them spoken too before we lost today... Regardless of the fans, it's the players on the park that play the game and as a team we didn't show enough today to the management for them to continue in their roles. There wasn't enough fight in us, and as a team we're simply devoid of confidence after the past few weeks to get close to the levels we're capable of. At 5PM today for the first time I had tipped over to thinking a change was probably required, and within an hour it'd happened I don't think Dick should've left a day sooner and I think he deserved all the time he's had at the club, but 1320Lichtie has made some extremely good points regarding the stale feeling on and off the park and how we've come to this point and I think now was the right time. A sad way for things to end. Going forward, while I don't have a list of people I'd like to see apply or anything like it, and I certainly don't have any 'answers' to what we should do, I do know one thing for sure..... Stuart Malcolm cannot be our next manager. I have nothing but respect for Malky, and it must be remembered he is a title winning captain for the club, but as a manager he has failed in all three of the jobs he's had at clubs two and three levels below us. Due to the respect I have for the man, I won't say much more than simply say the prospect terrifies me, and it will continue to do so until we've appointed a new manager who isn't him. I would hope/ expect Malky to be in charge for the next two or three games as caretaker manager while we go through an interview process. The fairly standard thing would be to invite applications for a 7-10 day period then do two rounds of interviews prior to appointment, so I'd expect us to be looking at making an appointment in the days before/ after we play Morton away based on that, unless we have someone in mind we want to 'target'.... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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