SweeperDee Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Eh? Dingys 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda8 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 What does that even mean Just now, SweeperDee said: Dingys 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 What does that even mean Dingys 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 42 minutes ago, Yoda8 said: Hartley will see out the season before being replaced by John Hughes. Will he f**k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 As much as dundee fans are talking about a summer clearance, will they be able to bring in enough players of sufficient quality to improve the squad? Especially if need to release so much shite 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeefc1783 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 He was at Cowdenbeath before Barnsley. O'Dea was another, didn't get his contract renewed in India. David Clarkson broke records in the short time he was at the club and done a job. Gadz was plucked from literally nowhere. O'Hara was free to leave Killie. Haber wad a St Johnstone reject. Yes but apart from Gadz and Haber these are hardly players that people didn't know were already fairly decent. Haber was also a signing that smacked of desperation at the time as there wasn't much else available but has worked out well. I will give you that he has spotted something in O'hara but he has hardly been a rip roaring success. He has had a few games where he has been very good but he has had just as many games where he has been one of the worst players on the park. An eye for a player is still a myth when you consider how many out of the 50 players has been absolute shite 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 From O'Dea. Bit bizarre in regards to the night out comment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 26 minutes ago, SweeperDee said: From O'Dea. Bit bizarre in regards to the night out comment. It's a bit "If im away to get into a fight with a bigger boy, then I hope my mates jump in because im a total wet blanket" Fuckin man up O'Dea! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 1 hour ago, dundeefc1783 said: Yes but apart from Gadz and Haber these are hardly players that people didn't know were already fairly decent. Haber was also a signing that smacked of desperation at the time as there wasn't much else available but has worked out well. I will give you that he has spotted something in O'hara but he has hardly been a rip roaring success. He has had a few games where he has been very good but he has had just as many games where he has been one of the worst players on the park. An eye for a player is still a myth when you consider how many out of the 50 players has been absolute shite The reason Haber was signed was Hartley realised that his signings weren't good enough for the passing game (out the cup & bottom of the league) and it was time for the big punt up the park so yes it did smack of desperation. I always think pre-contract signings / early signings are a clear indication of a player that the manager is desperate to sign before any other team gets near them. These are the players he presumably had a lot of faith in: Loy - not good enough and out on loan - 3 year deal Low - constantly injured (was like that at Aberdeen so no surprise) - 3 year deal Ross - presumably doesn't rate him highly given the signings he has made since and his lack of first team games - 3 year deal Williams - presumably doesn't rate him given his lack of first team games - 3 year deal Vincent - does Harltey know his best position? - 3 year deal Simply not good enough. Vincent - 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dd23 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 The reason Haber was signed was Hartley realised that his signings weren't good enough for the passing game (out the cup & bottom of the league) and it was time for the big punt up the park so yes it did smack of desperation. I always think pre-contract signings / early signings are a clear indication of a player that the manager is desperate to sign before any other team gets near them. These are the players he presumably had a lot of faith in: Loy - not good enough and out on loan - 3 year deal Low - constantly injured (was like that at Aberdeen so no surprise) - 3 year deal Ross - presumably doesn't rate him highly given the signings he has made since and his lack of first team games - 3 year deal Williams - presumably doesn't rate him given his lack of first team games - 3 year deal Vincent - does Harltey know his best position? - 3 year deal Simply not good enough. Vincent - In a sea of depression this amused me.It reads like you've been talking to Vincent and he's just fecked off in disgust. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Another utterly bizarre "motivational" slur from one of the senior players. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowrising Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 The more I see of McGowan's comments and now O'Dea this looks more than just some call to arms for the team but possibly a real us and them split between individual players now being reflected not just on the pitch but in the media too. It would explain the utter shambles we have just witnessed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennysmassiveego Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I haven't seen much of O'Hara since he left Killie but from what I'm reading here he blows hot and cold . That was one of the reasons he was let go, too much of a passenger at times OK if you're a top 6 side but not when you're in a relegation dogfight 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dd23 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 The more I see of McGowan's comments and now O'Dea this looks more than just some call to arms for the team but possibly a real us and them split between individual players now being reflected not just on the pitch but in the media too. It would explain the utter shambles we have just witnessed. And if this is the case then again the buck stops with the manager. It's not just who he plays, it's who he doesn't. It must be galling for anyone in this situation knowing that no matter how shite it gets you'll never get on the pitch. Equally shite being on the pitch watching others off it picking up a wage while never having to perform, and more particularly shite being in this situation having watched two of the teams best performers walk away for comparative peanuts and a third be shown the door for obviously a disciplinary matter.Top that off by playing in front of a keeper who by his own admission is marking time to the end of the season.Not all of these things are the manager's fault, but a high percentage of them are things he could do something about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.T Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 From O'Dea. Bit bizarre in regards to the night out comment. Get that fucking phone on charge.Thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeefc1783 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Another utterly bizarre "motivational" slur from one of the senior players. Could be worse they could having a punch up (if it can be called that) on the pitch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Between O'Dea's and Gowser's comments it sounds like their is a real togetherness in the dressing room. Togetherness as in they fucking hate each other. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 O'Dea - Overall a good controlling influence. The positioning against Aberdeen, and others, looks like a problem with the manager. If we are to mark players well away from goal before they run in we must hold them tight to prevent any momentum before the cross comes in. We should have adjusted to 3 zone-al markers with others blocking runs. This is surely managers instructions problem Good point about others blocking runs - if midfield had done their job properly and then quite a few of those goals would be not have been conceded with as they would be not have got the the free run they ended up with up getting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Could be worse they could having a punch up (if it can be called that) on the pitch. At least it shows some form of passion on the park 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Yet on the park there all a bunch of shitebags. All fucking words yet doing f**k all on the pitch. O'Dea needs to lead that defence by example rather than being a donkey. McGowan needs to stop running about like a utter fanny and just stick with the basic and stop blaming everyone else for his mistakes. Other than that togetherness seems good [emoji6] Maybe instead of the usual 'Positional Awareness' training the squad should have a massive rumble and the survivors will be the starting eleven. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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