Richie Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Sky news are at it now. Attacking Sturgeon and the SNP. Phrases like "if sturgeon has her way" etc popping up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I don't see why the Telegraph would make something up that helps Labour. As much as mistruths and omissions are regularly made by papers, The Telegraph completely fabricating a story (which goes against their editorial line) seems unlikely. Not that it will stop the Nats from bleating on about the media being out to get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMjag Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 'the first scoop of the campaign' The humiliating collective climbdowns of Labour losers across the country And best of all, less than five weeks until the SNP utterly romp it and leave Scottish Labour utterly broken beyond repair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Sky News basically agreeing she is the most dangerous woman in Brtain. Hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I don't see why the Telegraph would make something up that helps Labour. As much as mistruths and omissions are regularly made by papers, The Telegraph completely fabricating a story (which goes against their editorial line) seems unlikely. Not that it will stop the Nats from bleating on about the media being out to get them. Well they seem to have got you and Jim Murphy big style the way it's looking. Job done for the Telegraph, whose "whoops, sorry" will be on page 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 The memo is out there. Have a look at it. So, to conclude this. Both parties deny this happened, nothing in the civil service minutes, no government officials attended the meeting and the memo has a qualification. :lol:Come on now jmo. Labour suffered from similar in the past, indeed fairly recently with that business letter from the very same paper. To say the truth has been stretched is the understatement of the century. The business letter was harmful to Labour but legitimate. A completely made up story, including a fabricated memo? That's a whole different level. If this is the case it is a scandal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I don't see why the Telegraph would make something up that helps Labour. As much as mistruths and omissions are regularly made by papers, The Telegraph completely fabricating a story (which goes against their editorial line) seems unlikely. Not that it will stop the Nats from bleating on about the media being out to get them. Because they would probably prefer labour elected under their own steam than labour propped up by the SNP on a vote by vote basis. And because they're a tory paper who are already beelin that big Eck made it clear the snp would vote down a tory queen's speech. If they can get the snp vote down it's feasible in the event of a hung parliament that Cameron will still have the largest party and that a combination of that,ukip and Lib Dem would give them what they need. 40+ snp in the chamber is a bigger nightmare for them than labour on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I don't see why the Telegraph would make something up that helps Labour. Because after the debates "vote labour get SNP" is not a scare story for many Labour voters, they are just hamming up the tartan tories angle. But its all a bit rushed and poorly executed. Osborne and Crosby are great at making up stories that play well with the base for a day or two, they are week at aiming for the floaters long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 They truly truly truly hate the fact that we are having a say for once It's genuinely making me feel a little bit depressed The good old United Kingdom eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Well they seem to have got you and Jim Murphy big style the way it's looking. Job done for the Telegraph, whose "whoops, sorry" will be on page 13. Possibility being they made it up to make Labour look stupid? If so they succeeded. That's the sort of skullduggery I like (apart from the fact I've fallen victim to it). Can't see it though. That would be House of Cards style mischief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaDundee Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Will jmothecat cry when Labour are decimated? I think he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 First Chinese Steel, now Chinese Whispers getting the better of the branch office diddies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Possibility being they made it up to make Labour look stupid? If so they succeeded. That's the sort of skullduggery I like (apart from the fact I've fallen victim to it). Can't see it though. That would be House of Cards style mischief. So you're acknowledging that this is likely hammed up bullshit. Cool. Glad we got there in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Possibility being they made it up to make Labour look stupid? If so they succeeded. I wouldn't worry too much about looking stupid, worse things can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirez Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I don't see why the Telegraph would make something up that helps Labour. As much as mistruths and omissions are regularly made by papers, The Telegraph completely fabricating a story (which goes against their editorial line) seems unlikely. Not that it will stop the Nats from bleating on about the media being out to get them. Read this - https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/peter-oborne/why-i-have-resigned-from-telegraph The Telegraph is rotten to the core Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 So you're acknowledging that this is likely hammed up bullshit. Cool. Glad we got there in the end. No, I'm acknowledging that it may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 No, I'm acknowledging that it may be. ^^^still hasn't read the memo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I don't see why the Telegraph would make something up that helps Labour. As much as mistruths and omissions are regularly made by papers, The Telegraph completely fabricating a story (which goes against their editorial line) seems unlikely. Not that it will stop the Nats from bleating on about the media being out to get them. The likes of the Telegraph and the Mail hate the SNP more than they hate Labour. The reason The Telegraph are happy to push this agenda is because "vote SNP get Tories" is their best hope of harming the SNP and it doesn't help Labour because the SNP have categorically ruled out voting for a Tory government which, y'know, only leaves one other option. They're more frightened of a Labour government with SNP influence than they are of a Labour majority. They'll say "of course the SNP want the Tories in... it helps independence" while conveniently leaving out how the main proponents of independence facilitating a government completely rejected by the Scottish people will help their cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Read this - https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/peter-oborne/why-i-have-resigned-from-telegraph The Telegraph is rotten to the core But with that there was a reason, with this it goes against their interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Read this - https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/peter-oborne/why-i-have-resigned-from-telegraph The Telegraph is rotten to the core This is the newspaper that got, arguably, the biggest public interest scoop of the century in the expenses scandal. How the f**k can they go from something so worthwhile to the gutter in such a short space of time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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