Kyle Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 So you think that who forms the next government at Westminster has no effect on Scotland whatsoever? Seriously? Yes. The vast majority of SNP voters feel a disconnect from a system which has neglected us and our votes for so long. We had a taste of true democracy - when our votes actually made a difference - last September. The number of times that Scotland has voted for one party and gotten someone completely different has taken its toll. The fact that those two parties are getting more and more similar all the time too, what's the point in us really caring when it's slight variation of the same thing? That's why labour have struggled so much imo, although choosing a right winger Blair-ite to lead scottish labour probably hasn't helped. I've trolled a bit recently, but above is actually how I view things. A party who, on the face of it, have so few principals like labour will never get my vote. Sozzles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Quick we've been found out this time chaps. Lets make sure we change context on the news desks and get a story out about "the ugly side of Scotch nationalism" Away an bile yer heid. James Cook and the BBC had a choice to make today as this story unfolded. They could have put the emphasis on the fact that the source was highly questionable given the First Minister, a spokesperson for the French Ambassador and the French Consul all denied it. They chose not too. To make matters worse Cook himself promoted the line that many folk in the SNP would rather see Cameron in No 10 as it promotes the indepence cause. In other words taking a totally false story and using it to promote an opinion that has no substance; something we expect from the partisan press but something we shouldn't be getting from an employee of the state funded media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Truth hurts eh? Don't think any reasonable person would deny that there are fuds trolling on the on the internet. What has that to do with the SNP or wider independence cause? Are you implying that such trolling is in any way a one way street??? I think it worthy to point out that yet again its a convenient switch of subject when lies have been called out. Funny that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Gorilla Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Yes. The vast majority of SNP voters feel a disconnect from a system which has neglected us and our votes for so long. We had a taste of true democracy - when our votes actually made a difference - last September. The number of times that Scotland has voted for one party and gotten someone completely different has taken its toll. The fact that those two parties are getting more and more similar all the time too, what's the point in us really caring when it's slight variation of the same thing? That's why labour have struggled so much imo, although choosing a right winger Blair-ite to lead scottish labour probably hasn't helped. I've trolled a bit recently, but above is actually how I view things. A party who, on the face of it, have so few principals like labour will never get my vote. Sozzles. That's a fair enough post but I believe there are still enough people in Labour who do give a shit about the poor in society and are trying to do the right thing. Labour may have moved more to the centre but they are not the same as the Tories and never will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Urban Gorilla/JMOTheCat/Tubbs/Labour/Labour voters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyAffro Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Good blog about abuse Janes Cook was getting for doing his job. http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/04/the-hounding-of-the-bbc-scotlands-james-cook-exposes-the-uglier-side-of-nationalism/ Pile of vacuous shite you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 That's a fair enough post but I believe there are still enough people in Labour who do give a shit about the poor in society and are trying to do the right thing. Labour may have moved more to the centre but they are not the same as the Tories and never will be. I agree that there are people in the Labour Party who still share those values. I think Ed does, and your deputy leader in Scotland too (although she's still coming across as incredibly naive and inexperienced). Truthfully though, I think labour really need to snatch the party back from the likes of Murphy, Sarwar and Curran. They define everything that puts people off labour. Self interested gravy trainers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Gorilla Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Urban Gorilla/JMOTheCat/Tubbs/Labour/Labour voters ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1428185498.269658.jpg Hopefully that'll be me celebrating a labour victory on election night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I quite like Cook and thought he was pretty even handed during the Indy ref tbh. Unfortunately there are quite a few angry simpletons out there looking for things to get worked up about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloop John B Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Just caught up on the latest developments The Telegraph being once again shown up despite it's veneer as a quality broadsheet that it scrapes the barrel as desperately as the Sun or the Daily Mail Scottish Labour's typically shambolic response of either climbing down or pretending that the story was still true Scottish Labour's complete and utter annilhilation in May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Naitch Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Shots have well and truly been fired over the last couple of days. It's going to be a mental few weeks in the lead up to May 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I agree that there are people in the Labour Party who still share those values. I think Ed does, and your deputy leader in Scotland too (although she's still coming across as incredibly naive and inexperienced). Truthfully though, I think labour really need to snatch the party back from the likes of Murphy, Sarwar and Curran. They define everything that puts people off labour. Self interested gravy trainers. Yeah, I like Ed Miliband and hope he becomes the prime minister. He's no statesman, but I think he's well intentioned. In saying that, I don't think I could vote for Scottish Labour right now and I'd prefer a Tory minority held to account by the SNP than an unchecked Labour majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 James Cook and the BBC had a choice to make today as this story unfolded. They could have put the emphasis on the fact that the source was highly questionable given the First Minister, a spokesperson for the French Ambassador and the French Consul all denied it. They chose not too. To make matters worse Cook himself promoted the line that many folk in the SNP would rather see Cameron in No 10 as it promotes the indepence cause. In other words taking a totally false story and using it to promote an opinion that has no substance; something we expect from the partisan press but something we shouldn't be getting from an employee of the state funded media. Perfectly put gd. I'd like to see jmo respond to this. The urban monkey chap is not worth responding to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Hopefully that'll be me celebrating a labour victory on election night Think this will be more like the scenes after election night tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I quite like Cook and thought he was pretty even handed during the Indy ref tbh. Unfortunately there are quite a few angry simpletons out there looking for things to get worked up about. Cook is so far out of order today. Doing his job? Only if his job is protecting the British establishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Falcor Roar Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 The party with the most seats will be given the chance to form the next government. In marginals this could make the difference between a Tory or labour government. Apparently you have a politics degree. Surely you could have worked that out for yourself Yeah you are a fucking idiot though. Chance is a liberal term considering a likely majority of anti Tory MPs will vote against a Tory majority. Easy to understand if you are not a simpleton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChineseMan Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I've also got an exam at 9.30 on the 8th. Does anyone know if the BBC's whole coverage will be put up on iPlayer? If so I might try and do the equivalent of not seeing the scores until you watch Match of the Day. Would that be sad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 More like this Do you think Ed will answer Sturgeon's call to vote down a minority Tory government? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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