ForzaDundee Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 "UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage has been invited to take part in a TV debate with David Cameron, Ed Miliband and Nick Clegg ahead of next year's general election. The BBC, ITV, Sky and Channel 4 have announced plans to hold three debates. One would involve a head-to-head debate between just the Conservative and Labour leaders, and another would include the Liberal Democrat leader. The other debate would involve all three leaders plus Mr Farage. The broadcasters said the proposed formats reflected "changes in the political landscape" since the three prime ministerial debates during the 2010 general election, which featured Conservative Mr Cameron, Labour's Gordon Brown and Lib Dem Mr Clegg." Disgusting. If they want to reflect changes to the political landscape then Nick Clegg should be nowhere near these debates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I'm not surprised to see the media ignore the UK's 3rd largest party by membership. Disappointed, but not surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 "UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage has been invited to take part in a TV debate with David Cameron, Ed Miliband and Nick Clegg ahead of next year's general election. The BBC, ITV, Sky and Channel 4 have announced plans to hold three debates. One would involve a head-to-head debate between just the Conservative and Labour leaders, and another would include the Liberal Democrat leader. The other debate would involve all three leaders plus Mr Farage. The broadcasters said the proposed formats reflected "changes in the political landscape" since the three prime ministerial debates during the 2010 general election, which featured Conservative Mr Cameron, Labour's Gordon Brown and Lib Dem Mr Clegg." Disgusting. If they want to reflect changes to the political landscape then Nick Clegg should be nowhere near these debates. He's deputy leader of the government whether you like it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I'm not surprised to see the media ignore the UK's 3rd largest party by membership. Disappointed, but not surprised. Wouldn't you say you've had enough exposure over the last few months, not that it amounted to very much I suppose?How many seats are the SNP contesting down south next year by the way?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Wouldn't you say you've had enough exposure over the last few months, not that it amounted to very much I suppose? How many seats are the SNP contesting down south next year by the way?? No. And 650. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 As much as I dislike the media arse-licking that Farage is treated to, it will be glorious to see his Griffin-esque failure when he has to debate anything outwith his immigration comfort zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 As much as I dislike the media arse-licking that Farage is treated to, it will be glorious to see his Griffin-esque failure when he has to debate anything outwith his immigration comfort zone. I wonder if he will get a Question Time all to himself like squinty Nick did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I wonder if he will get a Question Time all to himself like squinty Nick did? Feels like he appears every other week anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 As much as I dislike the media arse-licking that Farage is treated to, it will be glorious to see his Griffin-esque failure when he has to debate anything outwith his immigration comfort zone. Agreed. The more public exposure Farage gets the better for exactly this reason. Ideally a few of the deputies will get a run out nearer the election too. They make the SNP front bench look deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Agreed. The more public exposure Farage gets the better for exactly this reason. Ideally a few of the deputies will get a run out nearer the election too. They make the SNP front bench look deep. Yesterday's Express gave away a full page for a comment piece by the UKIP deputy leader. I was cringing throughout. My fault for browsing that rag though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Yesterday's Express gave away a full page for a comment piece by the UKIP deputy leader. I was cringing throughout. My fault for browsing that rag though. It's always the problem with these fringe nutter parties. The Greens are a bit like that too. It's easy enough to find one or maybe two relatively comfortable on TV, but once you advance beyond that you get the real dross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Have to agree with the Sherrif. Whilst it's frustrating to see the BBC lick Farage's ring constantly, an actual debate as opposed to free reign to deliver his pint-in-hand sermons, will be difficult for big Nige. Farage is essentially an excellent PR man and not much else. Not sure if that can translate to a TV debate. Unfortuntately Cameron, Miliband and Clegg are absolute clowns as well, so he might still find a way to come out of this looking well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Have to agree with the Sherrif. Whilst it's frustrating to see the BBC lick Farage's ring constantly, an actual debate as opposed to free reign to deliver his pint-in-hand sermons, will be difficult for big Nige. Farage is essentially an excellent PR man and not much else. Not sure if that can translate to a TV debate. Unfortuntately Cameron, Miliband and Clegg are absolute clowns as well, so he might still find a way to come out of this looking well. How the utter f**k can this walking talking caricature of a right wing buffoon ever be mistaken for a good PR man? I think he's fucking horrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 How the utter f**k can this walking talking caricature of a right wing buffoon ever be mistaken for a good PR man? I think he's fucking horrific. You aren't the general population champ. You are also a bit thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 It's always the problem with these fringe nutter parties. The Greens are a bit like that too. It's easy enough to find one or maybe two relatively comfortable on TV, but once you advance beyond that you get the real dross. There is actually some truth in this, in the sense that people slick to be career polititcians are thin on the ground in parties with a handful of people earning a wage. Not that the Greens are a "nutter party" by any means but they don't have a huge number of people to put forward that will convince your average populist politics man on the street. I hope that's one decent thing about the political engagement the last few years. If 1% of the people who gave a shit about this (on both sides) are capable of putting their political views across well, it can't be bad for politics. How the utter f**k can this walking talking caricature of a right wing buffoon ever be mistaken for a good PR man? I think he's fucking horrific. The answer is in the OP, he's taken a complete laughing stock of a party (guess they are still are, in a different way) once fronted by the likes of Robert Kilroy-Silk and has taken them to contesting General Election Leaders' Debates. He's done that through absolutely nothing but PR. His successes so far seemed to be based on very little apart from the fact that he's absolutely fucking everywhere (the people will vote for whatever's being talked about syndrom) and the fact that he's a "normal bloke", despite being nothing of the sort. Of course normal, intelligent people think he's a monumental fud but he's tapped into something that represents a decent chunk of the Southern British population and milked it amazingly. Brilliant marketing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Not that the Greens are a "nutter party" by any means Mmm... really? They have a few policies that seem quite sensible, then as you move further down the playbook you get to the batshit buffoonery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 It'll be interesting to see how Nigel "I'm just a ruddy bloke" Farage gets on when pressed on issues other than immigration. That said, he'll inevitably link any issues back to immigration, and his bombastic style will probably appease the racist thickos watching at home. Last time he was pressed on policies (or at least the last time I recall) this is how it went: Too many policy promises, all of which haven't been costed yet Most policies are still under review because we haven't worked out costs We want to make cuts but still have growth - a percent saved here, and a percent saved there all adds up We still need to put forward a credible alternative economic policy I know! We'll fund things through shale gas I haven't looked at our website in ages, I don't know what policies are on there now Putin is the world leader I most admire. That was in an interview with Alastair Campbell - in the same publication that Alex Salmond was interviewed - and funnily enough, the media ignored Farage's floundering about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Mmm... really? They have a few policies that seem quite sensible, then as you move further down the playbook you get to the batshit buffoonery. Examples please. I'm not asking to be a dick, just interested in what policies specifically the general public see as batshit mental so I can bring it up at my first branch meeting tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Unfortuntately Cameron, Miliband and Clegg are absolute clowns as well, so he might still find a way to come out of this looking well. This. He looks good because no one actually knows how to debate him and he's better at engaging with his audience. Clegg is a very intelligent guy though but he's too unpopular to have any sort of impact on him. I genuinely think that Farage will come out of these debates as popular as ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Would love to see Sturgeon and Farage debate, just to see Farage get destroyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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