Silvio Tattiescone Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, 10menwent2mow said: Same goes for Finechty and Snine either side of Cullen. What, you don't pronounce the z? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10menwent2mow Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, Newbornbairn said: What, you don't pronounce the z? I was more barking up the tree of locals pronouncing them differently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 19/10/2023 at 17:31, Sergeant Wilson said: Jesus, Mary and Joseph... ... and the wee donkey ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 14 hours ago, Rugster said: Get it on Bit o sand in the worst affected areas and game on -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Granny Danger Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 2 hours ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: It happens all over. Locals here say CARdross, whilst the rest of the world says CarDROSS. I think you’ll find the rest of the world say ‘where’? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, greendot said: The new barriers were designed to provide a '1-in-200-years standard of defence', not stop flooding altogether (or prevent flooding for the next 200 years, as somebody's bound to interpret that as). I think it's fair to to say that a >200mm in a single night dump of rain is indeed one of those 1-in-200 events, not a case of somebody doing their sums wrong. As Mackie points out, levels on par with the current freak event haven't been seen for at least 50 years, and probably the 50 years before that. Edited October 21, 2023 by Hedgecutter 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendot Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said: The new barriers were designed to provide a '1-in-200-years standard of defence', not stop flooding altogether (or prevent flooding for the next 200 years, as somebody's bound to interpret that as). I think it's fair to to say that a >200mm in a single night dump of rain is indeed one of those 1-in-200 events, not a case of somebody doing their sums wrong. I was reading elsewhere someone had suggested the river was approx 300 mm above the previous record high so its very much a 1 in 200 year event but I'm in absolutely no doubt that if the defenses were raised to allow for that sort of level 1. there would still be complaints if that then failed further down the line and 2. The 16million cost to install the current protective measures would raise beyond the budget allocated so they're damned if they do, damned if they don't (i understand the use of that phrase isn't the best!) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Hedgecutter said: Eta: having read back, I suspect you misunderstood my post. People in Angus do pronounce the Z in Edzell (& Zoar), making it one of the anomalies around Scotland where the Z is otherwise normally silent (and I was asking why Edzell was an exception). As much as you want Culzean to have a Z in its pronunciation, it doesn't. It's firmly in the "that's how it's said, not just a local pronunciation" category, in there with the likes of Milngavie, Hawick & Findochty. Referring to a post below though, Snine (for Sandend) is very much in the 'local name for it' category, in alongside Foggie (for Aberchirder, which fwiw has a silent c). Aye I did misunderstand, sorry. I didn't realise folk in Angus pronounced it that way. That's quite the anomaly then. I can see how "Edyell" could morph into "Edzell" in a more anglicised culture as it's not as distinct in pronunciation as Finzean, for instance. I hope it's something more interesting though. And regarding the pronunciation of Culzean. I thought that was a clear whoosh, but I guess not. I spent every summer at Croy Shore until I was 16 and walked to and around the Culzean grounds so frequently I could do it blindfold now. I ken how to pronounce it. I get the feeling you're not going to let the Edzell thing lie, so let us know what you find out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 13 hours ago, Hedgecutter said: Why does Edzell get it's Z pronounced btw? Can't say I've ever heard it called Edbtwell. Maybe it was originally Welsh... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 11 hours ago, The Master said: Presumably Dundee Utd's training was cancelled today, affording Jim Goodwin the opportunity to express his displeasure at the floods. Compo faces thread for this pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 46 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said: The new barriers were designed to provide a '1-in-200-years standard of defence', not stop flooding altogether (or prevent flooding for the next 200 years, as somebody's bound to interpret that as). I think it's fair to to say that a >200mm in a single night dump of rain is indeed one of those 1-in-200 events, not a case of somebody doing their sums wrong. As Mackie points out, levels on par with the current freak event haven't been seen for at least 50 years, and probably the 50 years before that. 21 October 2203 Dear Sir As a resident of Brechin whose garden is presently a swimming pool I am disappointed that I did not have another 20 years to prepare for this. It is only 180 years ago since the last event and I purchased this house on the clear understanding… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 11 hours ago, Loonytoons said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogh Angus place names are far more likely to be Pictish and far less likely to have a gaelic yogh (z) in them. As an aside, how do you pronounce Culzean? Hope that helps. Yoghs aren't Gaelic they are Scots /Middle English The Scots speakers would have used the yogh to approximate the soft g from the Gaelic Eigill. The hard Z must be a recent thing as it's Aigle in Scots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Aberdeen City Council should probably rethink their storm warning graphic: I immediately thought of this: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Some photos of flooding in Dundee. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Some photos of flooding in Dundee. Well at least the Construction company in the bottom picture havent done too much work and will no doubt sensibly cease building houses in what is obviously a flood plain.......If not good luck getting a decent insurance quote if you buy a hoose there 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tout P'ti FC Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Bit blowy in Cumnock yesterday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 23 minutes ago, Caledonian1 said: Well at least the Construction company in the bottom picture havent done too much work and will no doubt sensibly cease building houses in what is obviously a flood plain.......If not good luck getting a decent insurance quote if you buy a hoose there That's not housing but a new school - the future merged (or should that be submerged?) Braeview Academy/Craigie High School. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 27 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: That's not housing but a new school - the future merged (or should that be submerged?) Braeview Academy/Craigie High School. ah well, so local kids can expect a few days off school in future as their classrooms are flooded then 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibby82 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 30 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: That's not housing but a new school - the future merged (or should that be submerged?) Braeview Academy/Craigie High School. The school that used to be there, St Saviour's, was sinking apparently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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