Richey Edwards Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Loonytoons said: Recurring theme. Give up the car. Na. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnash Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 7 hours ago, Hedgecutter said: Eta: Seriously, how in the name of Christ can you have MSM reporters on the ground in Brechin (or anywhere for that matter) for over 24hrs who still don't know how to pronounce the town's name? Yesterday I heard Bre (as in 'meh') chin (as in 'chin'). And of course the obligatory For (as in 'for') far (as in 'far'). But with the emphasis on the wrong syllable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gnash said: Yesterday I heard Bre (as in 'meh') chin (as in 'chin'). And of course the obligatory For (as in 'for') far (as in 'far'). But with the emphasis on the wrong syllable. The first is just poor research. The second is forgivable in as much that first syllables are rarely stressed more than the second outwith Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, Gnash said: Yesterday I heard Bre (as in 'meh') chin (as in 'chin'). And of course the obligatory For (as in 'for') far (as in 'far'). But with the emphasis on the wrong syllable. Gordon Ramsay pronounces Brechin that way. 25 second video in the link: https://www.sundaypost.com/fp/video-scots-chef-gordon-ramsays-pronunciation-of-brechin-slammed-on-social-media-and-by-his-mum/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnash Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: Gordon Ramsay pronounces Brechin that way. 25 second video in the link: https://www.sundaypost.com/fp/video-scots-chef-gordon-ramsays-pronunciation-of-brechin-slammed-on-social-media-and-by-his-mum/ That's different, a hard 'c'. What I heard was a 'ch'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 21 minutes ago, Gnash said: Yesterday I heard Bre (as in 'meh') chin (as in 'chin'). And of course the obligatory For (as in 'for') far (as in 'far'). But with the emphasis on the wrong syllable. Let's hope Friockheim doesn't make the national news. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 44 minutes ago, Nkomo-A-Gogo said: What about her upstairs things? Did she lose them as well? The insurance claim will say she did 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishtergrolsch Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, Gnash said: That's different, a hard 'c'. What I heard was a 'ch'. Gordon Ramsey is a complete and utter C. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Why does Edzell get it's Z pronounced btw? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said: Why does Edzell get it's Z pronounced btw? Being completely ignorant..Edyell? Embarrassingly as a pro yogh person, I've never given that a moments thought. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Hedgecutter said: Why does Edzell get it's Z pronounced btw? Because most folk aren't from Angus and follow normal rules of English pronunciation. I had absolutely no inkling it should be pronounced differently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Presumably Dundee Utd's training was cancelled today, affording Jim Goodwin the opportunity to express his displeasure at the floods. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, velo army said: Because most folk aren't from Angus and follow normal rules of English pronunciation. I had absolutely no inkling it should be pronounced differently. But everywhere else in Scotland doesn't follow the 'normal rules of English pronunciation' when it comes to Zs in place names (cf. Culzean). If anything, Angus is the only place in Scotland where the Z is used as one might expect*. Just don't ask about the pronunciation of Trinity (hamlet on way in to Brechin from the north). *Also the only area in Scotland where you'll find a placename beginning with Z. Edited October 20, 2023 by Hedgecutter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, velo army said: Because most folk aren't from Angus and follow normal rules of English pronunciation. I had absolutely no inkling it should be pronounced differently. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogh Angus place names are far more likely to be Pictish and far less likely to have a gaelic yogh (z) in them. As an aside, how do you pronounce Culzean? Hope that helps. Edited October 20, 2023 by Loonytoons Hedge got there first with Culzean 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 20 minutes ago, Loonytoons said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogh Angus place names are far more likely to be Pictish and far less likely to have a gaelic yogh (z) in them. As an aside, how do you pronounce Culzean? Hope that helps. Aye I appreciate the posts from yourself and @Hedgecutter. To be clear I was answering the query as to why people pronounce Edzell with a z, which is because most people aren't from Angus, the same way that people not from the North East won't pronounce Finzean or Portlethen the correct way. I wasn't saying how they should be pronounced, and having spent a huge part of my childhood at Culzean bay I pronounce it with a hard Z . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, velo army said: Aye I appreciate the posts from yourself and @Hedgecutter. To be clear I was answering the query as to why people pronounce Edzell with a z, which is because most people aren't from Angus, the same way that people not from the North East won't pronounce Finzean or Portlethen the correct way. I wasn't saying how they should be pronounced, and having spent a huge part of my childhood at Culzean bay I pronounce it with a hard Z . Fair dooz (couldn't resist) But Christ on a bike, Culzean with a hard "z"!!! In all seriousness, why this isn't taught in "English" at high school is pretty poor fair, in the same way that Scots history is overlooked over UK history. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 It happens all over. Locals here say CARdross, whilst the rest of the world says CarDROSS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, velo army said: having spent a huge part of my childhood at Culzean bay I pronounce it with a hard Z . Eta: having read back, I suspect you misunderstood my post. People in Angus do pronounce the Z in Edzell (& Zoar), making it one of the anomalies around Scotland where the Z is otherwise normally silent (and I was asking why Edzell was an exception). As much as you want Culzean to have a Z in its pronunciation, it doesn't. It's firmly in the "that's how it's said, not just a local pronunciation" category, in there with the likes of Milngavie, Hawick & Findochty. Referring to a post below though, Snine (for Sandend) is very much in the 'local name for it' category, in alongside Foggie (for Aberchirder, which fwiw has a silent c). Edited October 21, 2023 by Hedgecutter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 8 hours ago, Loonytoons said: As an aside, how do you pronounce Culzean? Cull-ain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10menwent2mow Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Same goes for Finechty and Snine either side of Cullen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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