McSpreader Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Just now, ICTJohnboy said: Well said that German woman. You are trying to wind me up! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Just now, McSpreader said: It's about the people not the self-serving, out of touch so called representatives who fail their electorate . Last time I looked the people voted No. And then voted for a pro-Indy majority which pledged a second referendum on Scotland becoming a nation state if current circumstances prevailed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, McSpreader said: You are trying to wind me up! So now we can add anti-German to your ever burgeoning cv! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, Antlion said: And then voted for a pro-Indy majority which pledged a second referendum on Scotland becoming a nation state if current circumstances prevailed. No....... they voted for a party they thought would extract the best deal from the UK Government to the benefit, betterment and material improvement of the Scottish people and this simply hasn't happened. They didnt vote for Indy they voted for the Party they thought would best battle Westminster....Boy , were they wrong. The SNP have been f*cking pathetic at securing any benefits for Scotland. Basically, they are shite! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 minute ago, ICTJohnboy said: So now we can add anti-German to your ever burgeoning cv! How? I love Germany and I especially love Germans whom I respect massively. I simply disagree with the sentiments expressed by the dumbfuck on QT! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Abusive language, oh the shame 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, McSpreader said: No....... they voted for a party they thought would extract the best deal from the UK Government to the benefit, betterment and material improvement of the Scottish people and this simply hasn't happened. They didnt vote for Indy they voted for the Party they thought would best battle Westminster....Boy , were they wrong. The SNP have been f*cking pathetic at securing any benefits for Scotland. Basically, they are shite! Independence wasn't on offer - a referendum was, from two parties. Together, those parties won a majority of seats. The servile anti-statehood parties form a minority in Holyrood. I'm not sure any party had in its manifesto a pledge to "battle Westminster" - but the fact that you think devolved administrations need to battle the larger sovereign parliament of the UK (and extract things from it, as it is presumably harmful at the moment) rather shows how horrific this constitutional setup is. You make it sound downright colonial. Edited February 2, 2017 by Antlion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 minute ago, DublinMagyar said: Abusive language, oh the shame But not aimed at another poster, that's the difference.......Yeah ? You get that , right? Surely ?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Antlion said: Independence wasn't on offer - a referendum was, from two parties. Together, those parties won a majority of seats. The servile anti-statehood parties form a minority in Holyrood. I'm not sure any party had in its manifesto a pledge to "battle Westminster" - but the fact that you think devolved administrations need to battle the larger sovereign parliament of the UK (and extract things from it, as it is presumably harmful at the moment) rather shows how horrific this constitutional setup is. You make it sound downright colonial. Tell me another nation state or country where the seat of Govt and it's hinterland does not garner the bulk of resources, investment and influence. If Scotland were independent we would all be railing against the liberal elite in Holyrood with their noses in the trough, mismanaging our resources whilst the outlying regions of Scotland would be suffering from a lack of investment and status. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Tell me another nation state or country where the seat of Govt and it's hinterland does not garner the bulk of resources, investment and influence. If Scotland were independent we would all be railing against the liberal elite in Holyrood with their noses in the trough, mismanaging our resources whilst the outlying regions of Scotland would be suffering from a lack of investment and status. And we could do something about it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, McSpreader said: Tell me another nation state or country where the seat of Govt and it's hinterland does not garner the bulk of resources, investment and influence. If Scotland were independent we would all be railing against the liberal elite in Holyrood with their noses in the trough, mismanaging our resources whilst the outlying regions of Scotland would be suffering from a lack of investment and status. And so you admit Scotland is an "outlying region" of the UK nation state. What a dreadful "union". You wouldn't accept such a situation for the UK, so it ought not to be tolerated for Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 That woman who said she voted leave because she saw straight bananas in a shop gave me an aneurism. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 The Tory doesn't care if there's an effective opposition, because his party will plough ahead with its goals. ONE PARTY STATE 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Labour party. "English Dream". Yup, union of equals alright 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Rebecca Long Bailey has some snarl on her, fuckin hell, that voice goes right through you!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Antlion said: And so you admit Scotland is an "outlying region" of the UK nation state. What a dreadful "union". You wouldn't accept such a situation for the UK, so it ought not to be tolerated for Scotland. Ive no problem with Scotland being a region of the UK. It's good enough for Wales and Northern Ireland and England is dissected into many regions. I think the whole UK benefits from this arrangement. It doesn't stop Scotland, England , Wales and NI from being countries each with distinct identities and cultures. I don't see what yer problem with the UK is tbh. Btw I cant compare Scotland with UK as you did when you said I wouldn't accept such a situation for the UK. That doesn't make sense to me . They are different entities. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Antlion said: The Tory doesn't care if there's an effective opposition, because his party will plough ahead with its goals. ONE PARTY STATE Strong Government!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Not sure what was more annoying, the straight banana comment, or that fat Tory not understanding how a migraine works. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 8 minutes ago, McSpreader said: Ive no problem with Scotland being a region of the UK. It's good enough for Wales and Northern Ireland and England is dissected into many regions. I think the whole UK benefits from this arrangement. It doesn't stop Scotland, England , Wales and NI from being countries each with distinct identities and cultures. I don't see what yer problem with the UK is tbh. Btw I cant compare Scotland with UK as you did when you said I wouldn't accept such a situation for the UK. That doesn't make sense to me . They are different entities. I don't see what your problem was with the EU, but there you go. It never stopped the UK (or any other member state) being countries with distinct identities and cultures, yet you couldn't stomach it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 As I've said many times before. It was the direction of travel towards an EU Empire. The move towards an EU state is as scary as it is doomed to failure. As said before, I love Europe and it's amazing cultural diversity. I simply don't feel the need to support a political entity that stops the UK from achieving it's full potential. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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