Sergeant Wilson Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I know it's available, but if there are so many deer, why aren't we awash with cheap venison? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 Many people here worried about wolves. They aren't really dangerous. People seem to think they are ferocious beasts that, in their pack, will hunt you down. This is a common misconception, it's not like that at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Many people here worried about wolves. They aren't really dangerous. People seem to think they are ferocious beasts that, in their pack, will hunt you down. This is a common misconception, it's not like that at all. Wolves stay clear of humans, but is there enough room left for them to be left alone? People need to be educated but given the attitude of some landowners towards predatory animals such as birds of prey you just can't educate people who won't listen. I think its a bad move if they are ever allowed to run loose. Scotland has changed so much since wolves were native to this country and I can't see there being any tolerance especially from estates or farmers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I know it's available, but if there are so many deer, why aren't we awash with cheap venison? In Inverness we have Roe, Mountjac and the occasional Red Deer roaming around gardens and they are powerful animals and not docile like cows or sheep. You can't just walk up to one throw a rope around it and expect it to follow you, they are beasts from hell when cornered. Its ok on the hills to cull deer where its open ground with licence and there aren't hillwalkers and tourists bumbling around to get in the way but take a high powered rifle into the city or town and try to hunt the urban deer and you are more likely to end up being hunted yourself by armed police. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) In Inverness we have Roe, Mountjac and the occasional Red Deer roaming around gardens and they are powerful animals and not docile like cows or sheep. You can't just walk up to one throw a rope around it and expect it to follow you, they are beasts from hell when cornered. Its ok on the hills to cull deer where its open ground with licence and there aren't hillwalkers and tourists bumbling around to get in the way but take a high powered rifle into the city or town and try to hunt the urban deer and you are more likely to end up being hunted yourself by armed police. I wasn't going to catch it myself. Surely a few tcheucters, suitably armed, could bring enough deer down to make sure we all eat like kings. Edited February 7, 2015 by Sergeant Wilson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I know it's available, but if there are so many deer, why aren't we awash with cheap venison? Cue the 'expensive antlers' joke. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufc1980 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I don't really care about attacks on humans.If you don't want to run the low risk getting attacked, don't go to areas populated by said animals. We're not the only inhabitants of this land, and I don't think our peace of mind and "safety" trumps all other concerns.Ironic though we should completely ignore the elephant in the room when talking about overpopulation here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavin_3110 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I'm all for the honey badger and hyena being introduced to Scotland. On a serious note, I think wolves would be alright. I like being at the top of the food chain though so no bears please. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Joseph Stalin Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Lynx, boar, bears and wolves all sound capable of killing humans, keep them away surely 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufc1980 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I'm all for the honey badger and hyena being introduced to Scotland. On a serious note, I think wolves would be alright. I like being at the top of the food chain though so no bears please. Humans are apex predators. We're above bears. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Many people here worried about wolves. They aren't really dangerous. People seem to think they are ferocious beasts that, in their pack, will hunt you down. This is a common misconception, it's not like that at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufc1980 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Lynx, boar, bears and wolves all sound capable of killing humans, keep them away surely Bears don't kill humans, YJS. Guns do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I know it's available, but if there are so many deer, why aren't we awash with cheap venison? It is more affordable than it used to be 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I don't really care about attacks on humans. If you don't want to run the low risk getting attacked, don't go to areas populated by said animals. We're not the only inhabitants of this land, and I don't think our peace of mind and "safety" trumps all other concerns. Ironic though we should completely ignore the elephant in the room when talking about overpopulation here. A bit difficult if said animals come into the populated area. If prey animals like deer and rabbits live in the city like they do in Inverness the predators will follow especially in winter, but then if its easier to gain a meal from bins, takeaway left overs or just people feeding them they will adapt. Maybe not wolves or lynx but definitely bears. Bears and humans don't really mix and I certainly don't want to meet one face to face on my early morning walk to work. I don't think there is enough room for large predators like wolf, bear and lynx to exist in the wild in this country along side humans even up here in the Highlands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Bears don't kill humans, YJS. Guns do. Your just jealous that they have the right to bear arms 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufc1980 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 That's when they call Bear Patrol and they come and tranquilize the bear and relocate it back into the wilderness.Eventually they learn where their area is and stick to it.It COULD work, but you're right it would take far more effort than people would be willing to give such a plan, sadly.Would be cool as f**k to have brown bears here again though, could adopt it as our national animal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufc1980 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Your just jealous that they have the right to bear arms I would too if I moved to a country that wasn't a borderline police state (guns are the tip of the iceberg for the UK really). Which I will as soon as is possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Bring them all back. All the wealthy landowners whose estates are currently only accessible to the privileged should be made to host them and can get a cut of the profits from wild Scottish safaris. The odd bear rampaging around towns can only be good IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 For bears and wolves ever to be a viable option on this a large number of hunting estates would need to be nationalised and allowed to return to their natural state. I doubt there will ever be a government that will see that as a high enough priority to spend the money and take the flak required to make it happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufc1980 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) And it begs another question, how much do these estates actually contribute to the economy. And in addition how much are they going to contribute to it in the future?I think it would be a good laugh to stumble upon a bear during a night out, take a few selfies with it.Laugh as it mauled that asshole friend nobody really likes.Those Russian videos on YT of people meeting bears in cities are always pretty entertaining. Edited February 7, 2015 by dufc1980 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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