10menwent2mow Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Veers into Jamie Oliver when he was saying a Sicilian cobbler with two euros to rub together could make a nourishing plate of pasta by wandering round to the market to buy 6 cherry tomatoes and 7 mussels and why can't poor people do that here, neglecting to acknowledge shops in schemes look like this: Is that the McColls in Tillydrone that used to be the Broadsword pub?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWhoWalksBehindTheRows Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 13 hours ago, Snobot said: Interesting thread, covering a lot of ground. Big deep plough lines like that are an absolute c**t to plant as well. Not surprised in the slightest that that is a Till Hill site tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snobot Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) Thread now pulled due to threat of litigation by landed power. TGE Andy Wightman straight in there in the replies. What a guy. Turns out he might not have been 100% accurate on the plight of the former tenants, as advised by Buccleugh’s PR guy! Edited December 18, 2020 by Snobot Spelling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-55361550 Andy Wightman's quit the Green Party 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K77 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) On 29/11/2020 at 13:05, NewBornBairn said: I think that's spectacularly missing the crucial point where the great estates of Scotland became doomed. In general, the public doesn't give a toss about grouse or deer or poshies stomping about in Tweed with shotguns. Out of sight, out of mind for something that doesn't affect the lives of ordinary people. But, when evidence is presented that the estates are slaughtering birds of prey - the animals on posters, pictures, emblems and tattoos all over, public opinion moves. When drivers on the A9 can see the grotesque scars of tracks being carved into the hillside by bulldozers, people wonder if the environment is being destroyed. Then when they present laughingly small numbers of the money being brought in - £7m for grouse shooting, or roughly Kilmarnock's annual revenue, people can see it's a sham. The estates as they exist just now are fucked. It's not "if" any more, it's "when". The first major landowner to smell the coffee and switch over to a Yellowstone approach - stop the shoots, encourage re-wilding, cater proactively for tourists - will become a very rich man indeed. Anders Povlsen is doing just that, but he is already a very rich man indeed. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/mar/21/danish-billionaires-anders-and-anne-holch-povlsen-say-plan-is-to-restore-scottish-highlands Edited December 18, 2020 by K77 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 I want bears and I cannot lie, when a bear comes round with an itty bitty waist and a brown thing in your face. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Scary Bear said: I want bears and I cannot lie, when a bear comes round with an itty bitty waist and a brown thing in your face. PnB isn't usually too keen on bears, have a like. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Thousands of salmon lost in 'major' seal attack - BBC News The world's tiniest violin out today 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: Thousands of salmon lost in 'major' seal attack - BBC News The world's tiniest violin out today I'm guessing they'll be wanting seal clubbing brought back now Nae luck, cuntos. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewan14 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 On 24/11/2016 at 22:17, bennett said: Fcuk beavers, more bears please. Ah , I see what you meant there You do not build dams , or bridges either ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewan14 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 On 18/12/2020 at 16:03, K77 said: Anders Povlsen is doing just that, but he is already a very rich man indeed. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/mar/21/danish-billionaires-anders-and-anne-holch-povlsen-say-plan-is-to-restore-scottish-highlands Did you see when they brought the 2 elk over in the wee plane ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: I'm guessing they'll be wanting seal clubbing brought back now Nae luck, cuntos. All for it tbh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: I'm guessing they'll be wanting seal clubbing brought back now Nae luck, cuntos. 6 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: They just shoot them Actually a bizarrely one-sided article. Goes into the context of the legislation and the effect it will have no these p***ks, but not the reason the legislation was brought into place in the first place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizzo Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Pish really as our common seals are massively in decline and many of the world's grey seals live around the UK coast. Double netting the pens would solve the issue instead of shooting and the use of acoustic deterrents. Did see this story about orcas returning to an ancestral home after the fish farms were removed this week so their god awful impact on surrounding areas really cant be denied now. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.cheknews.ca/i-felt-very-emotional-long-lost-orca-pod-returns-home-to-vancouver-island-after-25-years-732327/%3famp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: Thousands of salmon lost in 'major' seal attack - BBC News The world's tiniest violin out today Mon the seals. I assume it's lost on the salmon farms that they have done the equivalent of set up a chicken farm in peak fox territory. Idiots. As for the wider industry why they don't voluntarily follow their companies approach in Norway and at least put a solid base at the bottom of the pens seems beyond me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 The west coast fish farms need to be removed coastal waters, the damage they do is horrific especially to migratory fish and shellfish. After an escape of atleast 50'000 salmon in August from a Mowi fish farm at Carradale, the rivers in Ayrshire and further afield were filled with escapees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 On 29/11/2020 at 13:05, NewBornBairn said: I think that's spectacularly missing the crucial point where the great estates of Scotland became doomed. In general, the public doesn't give a toss about grouse or deer or poshies stomping about in Tweed with shotguns. Out of sight, out of mind for something that doesn't affect the lives of ordinary people. But, when evidence is presented that the estates are slaughtering birds of prey - the animals on posters, pictures, emblems and tattoos all over, public opinion moves. When drivers on the A9 can see the grotesque scars of tracks being carved into the hillside by bulldozers, people wonder if the environment is being destroyed. Then when they present laughingly small numbers of the money being brought in - £7m for grouse shooting, or roughly Kilmarnock's annual revenue, people can see it's a sham. The estates as they exist just now are fucked. It's not "if" any more, it's "when". The first major landowner to smell the coffee and switch over to a Yellowstone approach - stop the shoots, encourage re-wilding, cater proactively for tourists - will become a very rich man indeed. How long after he encouraged re-wilding would it be before he would be making as much as he would from grouse shooting? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, bennett said: The west coast fish farms need to be removed coastal waters, the damage they do is horrific especially to migratory fish and shellfish. After an escape of atleast 50'000 salmon in August from a Mowi fish farm at Carradale, the rivers in Ayrshire and further afield were filled with escapees. Remember to report and salmon you catch on the rivers the authorities are keeping tabs on the escapees. Although they have never had to swim up rivers so they might get stuck or lost or eaten 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: How long after he encouraged re-wilding would it be before he would be making as much as he would from grouse shooting? I take your point but think of it as an investment. Possibly it could even be done gradually. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 28 minutes ago, NewBornBairn said: I take your point but think of it as an investment. Possibly it could even be done gradually. I have my doubts, a toaty wee bit being re-wilded every year won't support many diverse reintroduced species - there wouldn't be enough room for them to exist comfortably - so there would be no influx of tourists to see them and there would be the subsequent loss of income from being no longer a grouse moor. They would have to be subsidised by the government - possibly for years - and then pay it back. It will never happen, imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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