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Watched the first 4 and it's excellent so far. The action has been ramped up and the stairwell fight was tremendous! I love knowing who all the supporting characters become in the MCU and it's nice to see those people in their normal environments or before major life altering events.

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why do i keep getting the feeling that the baldys guys son who was in the cage being experimented on is iron fist or will be in the future series, not just the fact that the name is danny, but also his look reminds me of what danny rand looks like in most adaptations (aside from the fact he is fucked the now)

 

given how Marvel are good at changing things for the film and tv universe, i can see this happening, good way to explain his powers as well if he's been worked on ala scarlett witch and quicksilver

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just finished it there, gutted i am, absolutely fantastic stuff

 

Looking forward to the further series that surely must be commissioned, without even worrying about the likes of Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Daredevil and the other characters in this could easily get their own series

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Meh.... Yon froggy guy wants a punch in the mush, just boring now. The punisher bits were decent, this elektra character is awful, poor actress who is all over place and is annoying.

Needs a decent villain, Jessica Jones had one and dd's first season had with yon baldy guy.

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Finished it tonight and have several thoughts on it. First of all, I did really enjoy it and thought it was really, really good but it wasn't anywhere near as good as season 1, in my opinion.

Some elements were better, though. I thought that the dialogue was much better than season 1's and I think that episode 3 of this season is by far the best episode of the 26 we've had thus far. The Punisher was brilliant, too. Onto the gripes...

I think that they lacked an overarching villain throughout the season. I think the show's at its best when dealing with the mob and Daredevil taking it apart which shows in certain moments (especially the episode with Punisher in prison) and left me wanting more of that as opposed to the Hand in there (which really takes away from the grounded approach, in my opinion). The show also just chucks so much at you and abandons those ideas so quickly (the Blacksmith's identity mystery was so rushed and Madam Gao was in it for all of a couple of minutes, as far as I'm aware). I have one or two others in the spoilers.

Season 2 is certainly dark. I mean, 1 wasn't cheery but it had light moments with the trio of Foggy, Karen and Matt but that's almost non-existent in 2 (that's not a negative nor a positive). Every relationship seems to have a sinister undertone in it.

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Kingpin being in it only made me think how good it would be to have a villain as good as him consistently in this season. I liked Punisher but he wasn't an out and out villain all the way through. Nobu was menacing but was barely in it, Reyes was quite good as a B-villain but not as dense as needed and was a fairly predictable character (other than her death) and Blacksmith was in it for a couple of episodes which was just utter pish.

They also had too many moments of ex machina. Stick's introduction was a prime example as was him popping up to kill Nobu for good at the end. The Punisher was bad for it, too.

Kingpin and Punisher in the prison were excellent and it was far better than the Daredevil/Elektra vs the Hand, in my opinion. Kingpin's rise was a bit too quick but it made for a nice surprise when he betrayed Punisher.

Seeing Nelson and Murdock crumble was a good side story but I do think they left the trio's interactions out a wee bit to accommodate Elektra which was a bit annoying but it was necessary to have them all at odds when the stakes are high for the firm and New York.

That was a long fucking post :lol:

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Finished it tonight and have several thoughts on it. First of all, I did really enjoy it and thought it was really, really good but it wasn't anywhere near as good as season 1, in my opinion.

Some elements were better, though. I thought that the dialogue was much better than season 1's and I think that episode 3 of this season is by far the best episode of the 26 we've had thus far. The Punisher was brilliant, too. Onto the gripes...

I think that they lacked an overarching villain throughout the season. I think the show's at its best when dealing with the mob and Daredevil taking it apart which shows in certain moments (especially the episode with Punisher in prison) and left me wanting more of that as opposed to the Hand in there (which really takes away from the grounded approach, in my opinion). The show also just chucks so much at you and abandons those ideas so quickly (the Blacksmith's identity mystery was so rushed and Madam Gao was in it for all of a couple of minutes, as far as I'm aware). I have one or two others in the spoilers.

Season 2 is certainly dark. I mean, 1 wasn't cheery but it had light moments with the trio of Foggy, Karen and Matt but that's almost non-existent in 2 (that's not a negative nor a positive). Every relationship seems to have a sinister undertone in it.

Spoilers now...

Kingpin being in it only made me think how good it would be to have a villain as good as him consistently in this season. I liked Punisher but he wasn't an out and out villain all the way through. Nobu was menacing but was barely in it, Reyes was quite good as a B-villain but not as dense as needed and was a fairly predictable character (other than her death) and Blacksmith was in it for a couple of episodes which was just utter pish.

They also had too many moments of ex machina. Stick's introduction was a prime example as was him popping up to kill Nobu for good at the end. The Punisher was bad for it, too.

Kingpin and Punisher in the prison were excellent and it was far better than the Daredevil/Elektra vs the Hand, in my opinion. Kingpin's rise was a bit too quick but it made for a nice surprise when he betrayed Punisher.

Seeing Nelson and Murdock crumble was a good side story but I do think they left the trio's interactions out a wee bit to accommodate Elektra which was a bit annoying but it was necessary to have them all at odds when the stakes are high for the firm and New York.

That was a long fucking post :lol:

 

im the opposite, i much prefer that there was no "big bad" guy to deal with as it made the hero's job way harder, in season one the target was fisk, nothing else, so it was kinda focused on that and couldnt branch out elsewhere, whereas in season two the mixed both the punisher and elektra storylines pretty well imo, how it made daredevil choose between the bigger picture or his friends, kinda showed the dilemma that a masked superhero will always face

 

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im the opposite, i much prefer that there was no "big bad" guy to deal with as it made the hero's job way harder, in season one the target was fisk, nothing else, so it was kinda focused on that and couldnt branch out elsewhere, whereas in season two the mixed both the punisher and elektra storylines pretty well imo, how it made daredevil choose between the bigger picture or his friends, kinda showed the dilemma that a masked superhero will always face

I agree that the dilemma he faced throughout the season was great but I feel that they still could've done that with a main bad guy.

I was really happy with the way it ended as it means that they will still have this tension of balancing Daredevil and his own life but it means Elektra is going to push him even further when she comes back to make him defend her (providing she does turn evil).

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I agree that the dilemma he faced throughout the season was great but I feel that they still could've done that with a main bad guy.

I was really happy with the way it ended as it means that they will still have this tension of balancing Daredevil and his own life but it means Elektra is going to push him even further when she comes back to make him defend her (providing she does turn evil).

im thinking a bit outside the box here, could be that if punisher gets his own series then fisk could be the big bad in that given what went on in prison, this would then free up daredevil to focus on elektra and the hand, or perhaps the hood, the maggia etc

 

fisk was fantastic, but i think it would be struggle to pit him against daredevil again given how good the storyline was in the first season, i think he needs a new hero to come up against (fisk that it) but given how dark and ruthless fisk is, perhaps only the punisher can match him in terms of extreme violence, lets face it, daredevils ideology of not killing anyone is fucking ridiculous given what he's dealt with so far

 

p.s how good did punisher look right at the end of daredevil in his famous skull armoured vest and long coat

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im thinking a bit outside the box here, could be that if punisher gets his own series then fisk could be the big bad in that given what went on in prison, this would then free up daredevil to focus on elektra and the hand, or perhaps the hood, the maggia etc

fisk was fantastic, but i think it would be struggle to pit him against daredevil again given how good the storyline was in the first season, i think he needs a new hero to come up against (fisk that it) but given how dark and ruthless fisk is, perhaps only the punisher can match him in terms of extreme violence, lets face it, daredevils ideology of not killing anyone is fucking ridiculous given what he's dealt with so far

p.s how good did punisher look right at the end of daredevil in his famous skull armoured vest and long coat

Well, considering the Punisher's story with his family is finished, I think it's definitely likely that they'd have Fisk as his main villain when he gets his own series. I think it's only a matter of time before Bullseye's introduced as well but I hope the hold back on him killing Elektra just now as she's only just been resurrected :lol:

I agree that the Punisher looked brilliant at the end. I still don't know how he managed to do that skull free hand, though ;)

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Well, considering the Punisher's story with his family is finished, I think it's definitely likely that they'd have Fisk as his main villain when he gets his own series. I think it's only a matter of time before Bullseye's introduced as well but I hope the hold back on him killing Elektra just now as she's only just been resurrected :lol:

I agree that the Punisher looked brilliant at the end. I still don't know how he managed to do that skull free hand, though ;)

 

Wasn't there a hint to whatever the Punisher will be doing next at the end with the CD he picks up?

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Wasn't there a hint to whatever the Punisher will be doing next at the end with the CD he picks up?

 I thought that too. There was that thing that he wouldn't tell Karen which is obviously important.

 

Also, in terms of future villains, I wonder if Melvin, (who makes Daredevil's suits), will go all Gladiator in season 3? He keeps mentioning Betsy so if anything happened to her, he might go a little crazy like he did in the comics. Further to this, Owlsley from season 1 mentioned his son so we might get an Owl villain at some point too

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I thought that too. There was that thing that he wouldn't tell Karen which is obviously important.

Also, in terms of future villains, I wonder if Melvin, (who makes Daredevil's suits), will go all Gladiator in season 3? He keeps mentioning Betsy so if anything happened to her, he might go a little crazy like he did in the comics. Further to this, Owlsley from season 1 mentioned his son so we might get an Owl villain at some point too

I don't why but I really like Melvin and I've been hoping he doesn't go all Gladiator for that reason :lol: I think he probably will (he's got posters in his office and there have been some other hints).

In terms of future villains, I don't think it'll be Bullseye next season. I think you've got to do Elektra's death if you do bring him in and they're not gonna do that two seasons in a row.

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I don't why but I really like Melvin and I've been hoping he doesn't go all Gladiator for that reason :lol: I think he probably will (he's got posters in his office and there have been some other hints).

In terms of future villains, I don't think it'll be Bullseye next season. I think you've got to do Elektra's death if you do bring him in and they're not gonna do that two seasons in a row.

I agree re Elektra. I think they knew that we all knew how she dies in the comics so they killed her in this way to try to elicit more of a shock. I just can't see them killing her again. 

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Just finished Season 2 and loved it to bits. Better than Season 1 for my money, but the end felt a bit rushed and it feels like the middle of a story rather than a conclusion (as it probably should with all the planned shows in the next few years).

 

Was genuinely surprised when Fisk appeared as i had no idea he was going to pop-up. The scenes with the Punisher and Matt in the prison were some of the best bits on the whole series so far.

The final battle on the rooftop was a bit of a mess - the "army" of the hand seemed to be about 10-15 guys in the end / Foggy shows up for no obvious reason / Punisher shows up just to randomly snipe 2 ninjas and nod / all the ninjas stopped fighting a couple of times to give the heroes some dialogue time / Nobu the ninja accidentally stabs his god figure Elektra and good-guy Daredevil throws him off the roof to his death.

 

In my head I thought the final battle was going to see the Punisher show up with the mini-gun and destroy everything to save the day. Seriously - don't show the punisher holding a mini-gun and then not have him use the thing!! Also thought he would kill Nobu so Daredevil could keep his hands clean.

Overall I thought the Hand were well done as a threat and Elektra was similarly annoying to the character in the comics.

 

I'd be surprised if series 3 of Daredevil isn't Bullseye appearing and something close to the Born Again story

 

 

Next up is Luke Cage in September.

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Just finished Season 2 and loved it to bits. Better than Season 1 for my money, but the end felt a bit rushed and it feels like the middle of a story rather than a conclusion (as it probably should with all the planned shows in the next few years).

Was genuinely surprised when Fisk appeared as i had no idea he was going to pop-up. The scenes with the Punisher and Matt in the prison were some of the best bits on the whole series so far.

The final battle on the rooftop was a bit of a mess - the "army" of the hand seemed to be about 10-15 guys in the end / Foggy shows up for no obvious reason / Punisher shows up just to randomly snipe 2 ninjas and nod / all the ninjas stopped fighting a couple of times to give the heroes some dialogue time / Nobu the ninja accidentally stabs his god figure Elektra and good-guy Daredevil throws him off the roof to his death.

In my head I thought the final battle was going to see the Punisher show up with the mini-gun and destroy everything to save the day. Seriously - don't show the punisher holding a mini-gun and then not have him use the thing!! Also thought he would kill Nobu so Daredevil could keep his hands clean.

Overall I thought the Hand were well done as a threat and Elektra was similarly annoying to the character in the comics.

I'd be surprised if series 3 of Daredevil isn't Bullseye appearing and something close to the Born Again story

Next up is Luke Cage in September.

Daredevil didn't kill nobu

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