eurofootballstadium.com Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 For Euro 2020, a new National Football Stadium will be constructed next to the Brussels ring road. Anderlecht are likely to be tenants which will involve uprooting the club from their local area. As someone who goes to most home games, I'm not sure how I feel about it. Increasingly, characterless shoebox stadia are erected near main roads (e.g. Broadwood, St.Mirren Stadium, McDiarmid Park, Falkirk etc) at the expense of dated grounds full of character (e.g.Broomfield). It seems to be the way of it in Germany too, although the scale is such that the shoebox model is less prominent. How do fans feel about this in general? Do you see it as a welcome modernisation, a necessary evil or an abomination? Especially any Clyde fans who have been severely shifted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottmcleanscontacts Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 The new St. Mirren Park is a stones throw from their old place and McDiarmid Park is probably as close to the City Centre as many a ground, certainly not more than 20/25 minutes walk to the City Centre so this thread is fundamentally flawed already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 'Stadia' is a wankerish plural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurofootballstadium.com Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share Posted April 12, 2015 'Stadia' is a wankerish plural. Agreed! I should change it to 'Grounds' or 'gruns' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 It's an abomination. You only need to look as far as Scotland to see this. Falkirk, East Fife, Airdrionians are all victims. Had great stadiums, now soulless shit holes. New stadiums can be built with character. But they rarely are. For some reason a uniform stadium on all 4 sides is seen as better. The days of having "ends" or special stands is slowly coming to an end sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottmcleanscontacts Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 It's an abomination. You only need to look as far as Scotland to see this. Falkirk, East Fife, Airdrionians are all victims. Had great stadiums, now soulless shit holes. New stadiums can be built with character. But they rarely are. For some reason a uniform stadium on all 4 sides is seen as better. The days of having "ends" or special stands is slowly coming to an end sadly. I agree that new stadiums are generally devoid of any soul bit I also wonder if we look back on old grounds with a Nostalgic view. Though in saying all that I was recently at Fleetwood Town v Preston and loved every minute of it. A modern stadium, rebuilt in the last 5/10 years but with great terracing at either end, a good looking Main Stand and quirks like a Social Club in the corner. Definitely thought back to away trips to Brockville, East End and the like and how good it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WullieBroonIsGod Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I blame the "family" element of gruns. Has anyone actually sat in a family section? Only at a Scotland game and it was absolute torture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Diehard Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Out of town stadia (there, I did it too) are generally pish. Unless you have an absolutely belter of a public transport link, the end of a match is a nightmare. 50,000 or whatever leaving at the one time and every one of them relies on transport to get them away. Hampden has its critics, but at least a reasonable number can walk it home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Increasingly, characterless shoebox stadia are erected near main roads (e.g. Broadwood, St.Mirren Stadium, McDiarmid Park, Falkirk etc) at the expense of dated grounds full of character (e.g.Broomfield). Characterless shoebox I'll give you, but our ground is as much 'out of town' as Love Street was. It's only 800m away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 If you look at when grounds we're built the vast majority were originally out of town anyway. Agree it's not ideal now, but the financial benefits for building out of town are huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 The location isn't responsible for the type of stadia. Most clubs can only afford to build the most basic of structures with no room for design elements or enhancements. This also satisfies the short sighted Scottish football attitude of 'they're only there to the watch the game anyway' so there's no need to create an environment that would cater for fans being there longer before/after games that could generate more income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Building grounds on the beach is the way forward IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottmcleanscontacts Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 The location isn't responsible for the type of stadia. Most clubs can only afford to build the most basic of structures with no room for design elements or enhancements. This also satisfies the short sighted Scottish football attitude of 'they're only there to the watch the game anyway' so there's no need to create an environment that would cater for fans being there longer before/after games that could generate more income. Correct. Even small clubs down south really make an effort with fans bars at grounds and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurofootballstadium.com Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 Characterless shoebox I'll give you, but our ground is as much 'out of town' as Love Street was. It's only 800m away. True, slightly closer to St James interchange and Linwood but negligible in the grand scheme of things. I preferred Love St but I guess the real estate for the new grun must've been cheap as chips. It could've been made more interesting though. Check out the BATE Borisov grun - small but enticing. https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQlRXHALZ2LUgWuyfugj2nTmnbYJB7tcc5rfbk8MRzczdZbDlng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Out of town stadia (there, I did it too) are generally pish. Unless you have an absolutely belter of a public transport link, the end of a match is a nightmare. 50,000 or whatever leaving at the one time and every one of them relies on transport to get them away. Hampden has its critics, but at least a reasonable number can walk it home. Hamden , ibrox and parkhead are in general nightmares to drive in and out of on March days however public transport wise they have excellent bus , rail options . Ibrox also has the subway. Also if decent enough weather ibrox and parkhead is only a twenty minute walk from city centre and also all 3 have a good number of bars/ fast food outlets nearby if you want to get a few or have a munch whilst waiting on the crowds or traffic to die down . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurofootballstadium.com Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 Hamden , ibrox and parkhead are in general nightmares to drive in and out of on March days however public transport wise they have excellent bus , rail options . Ibrox also has the subway. Also if decent enough weather ibrox and parkhead is only a twenty minute walk from city centre and also all 3 have a good number of bars/ fast food outlets nearby if you want to get a few or have a munch whilst waiting on the crowds or traffic to die down . Ibrox and Celtic Park also have very secure parking with all of the "parked-car surveillance officers" in the nearby streets. I'd need to have had a few already to decide to have a drink in one of the pubs near Parkhead or Ibrox;) I would say Celtic Park has poor transport links given the size of the venue but it is entrenched in its catchment area so fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpaty Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I was born a year after Broadwood was built and until November, I've lived within 15 minutes of it. It's a total myth that you need some sort of teleporter to get to Broadwood. Craiglinn is 2 minutes walk away and Croy station is virtually down the hill in a straight line. No denying about the ground itself - soulless, too big, etc. But the dream was Clyde were going to hover up the 50,000 people of Cumbernauld and they'd be queues for season tickets. Someone just forgot to tell them everyone supports the old firm and Clyde were second division shite at the time. We didn't even score until our fifth game ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Hamden , ibrox and parkhead are in general nightmares to drive in and out of on March days however public transport wise they have excellent bus , rail options . Ibrox also has the subway. Also if decent enough weather ibrox and parkhead is only a twenty minute walk from city centre and also all 3 have a good number of bars/ fast food outlets nearby if you want to get a few or have a munch whilst waiting on the crowds or traffic to die down . Nip down to The Kensington if you want a classy establishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Though in saying all that I was recently at Fleetwood Town v Preston and loved every minute of it. A modern stadium, rebuilt in the last 5/10 years but with great terracing at either end, a good looking Main Stand and quirks like a Social Club in the corner. I was at Shrewsbury v one of the Bristols a couple of seasons ago. They have a new box stadium but the difference was it was pretty full so the atmosphere was awesome. Was also at St J v Dons in August and a decent crowd made it a not bad atmosphere. Playing in a 10000 seater with 500 fans is always going to be awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurofootballstadium.com Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 Nip down to The Kensington if you want a classy establishment. Do you think there's a bar in Kensington called The Bellahouston, just round the corner from Harrods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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