Mr Bairn Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Voted against condemning ISIS and now voted in favour of boycotting Israel. Load of pish. Student unions are for cheap pints and jaegerbombs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Hipster b*****ds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 Hipster b*****ds. ***Does Jazz hands*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I think they also voted to actively oppose UKIP a couple years back. Surely it shouldn't be the place of the NUS to tell its students who they can and can't support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Koop Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Voted against condemning ISIS and now voted in favour of boycotting Israel. Load of pish. Student unions are for cheap pints and jaegerbombs. Man has a time machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 What Scottish student associations and unions are actually nus affiliated? I know Dundee and St Andrew's aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 The Scottish NUS passed the same anti ISIS motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 I find the condemnation of the NUS and student politics a bit weird tbh. I mean yeah, there are definitely times when it comes across a little pointless, and the people involved can often be a bit pious, but ultimately student associations are campaigning bodies, and it's totally right that they should take political stances. These, in particular, are daft statements. Regarding the ISIS/Israel comment, while they clearly screwed up on the ISIS motion (read about it here http://www.buzzfeed.com/richardhjames/the-nus-voted-against-a-motion-condemning-isis-after-claimin#.fy6x3lqZ7) the BDS campaign against Israel is pretty justified in my view, considering the regularity with which Israel breaks international law etc. I dont have a major issue with boycotting Israel if you are going to boycott ISIS as well but one without the other makes it seem like the exec sympathise with Islamic terrorism. I wish there was a way individual students could opt out because there is no way this PC brigade represent my views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I dont have a major issue with boycotting Israel if you are going to boycott ISIS as well but one without the other makes it seem like the exec sympathise with Islamic terrorism. I wish there was a way individual students could opt out because there is no way this PC brigade represent my views. Why don't you stand for election on a platform for your union/association to disaffiliate? Or you could just continue your individual boycott of Isis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I'm boycotting ISIS by refusing to go on holiday to Syria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I'm boycotting ISIS by walking everywhere instead of paying for oil products, thus reducing demand and the price to ISIS for their smuggled oil from Iraq and Syria. Scotland away in Georgia going to be a bitch though, better leave at the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 The NUS is a complete and utter joke and I'm glad Glasgow has nothing to do with it whatsoever. The BDS campaign is an utterly wrongheaded response to a very complex situation. On several occasions now, the BDS lobby at Glasgow has sought to prevent academics from Israeli Universities and the Israeli Ambassador from speaking to student groups who specifically invited them to listen and to cross-examine their views and and roles. This served absolutely no good whatsoever. It makes it more difficult to get a proper critique of the wrongs of the Israeli state on campus, intimidates and makes unwelcoming the campus for a number of Jewish students, and alienates fair-minded people from the cause for Palestinian statehood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 The NUS is a complete and utter joke and I'm glad Glasgow has nothing to do with it whatsoever. The BDS campaign is an utterly wrongheaded response to a very complex situation. On several occasions now, the BDS lobby at Glasgow has sought to prevent academics from Israeli Universities and the Israeli Ambassador from speaking to student groups who specifically invited them to listen and to cross-examine their views and and roles. This served absolutely no good whatsoever. It makes it more difficult to get a proper critique of the wrongs of the Israeli state on campus, intimidates and makes unwelcoming the campus for a number of Jewish students, and alienates fair-minded people from the cause for Palestinian statehood. If students do not know the problems with the Israeli state then we shouldn't be wasting money educating them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGR Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I'm struggling to see what was wrong with the original ISIS motion. edit: here it is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u02m-DH4Gbe5LeCL2GFrr59oIXEYexDsjx2EKB7DCSI/edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 I'm boycotting the letters I and S from now on. o there. ^^^^ tak ng the p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 If this is like most NUS conference decisions then the executive will just ignore it. They have history on this. I'm surprised that they even debated this as the UJS usually goes to great lengths to stifle any sort of debate on Israel. It is difficult though as many SAs are hijacked by the anti-semites in the far left. I remember being at one conference where the delegates from the SA in front of me voted for a motion that was in direct contradiction of their SA policy - the delegation leader tried to enforce it - he even had copies of all the SA policies with him - but he was told by conference organisers that the delegates didn't have to follow their SA policies. Basically delegates vote for their own factional interests before the interests of their SA. That being said, I am aware that some SAs have censured delegates who have voted against their SA policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 The BDS campaign is an utterly wrongheaded response to a very complex situation. On several occasions now, the BDS lobby at Glasgow has sought to prevent academics from Israeli Universities and the Israeli Ambassador from speaking to student groups who specifically invited them to listen and to cross-examine their views and and roles. The Israeli situation is only complicated if certain key facts are omitted from it. The reality is, Israel is an occupation and the Palestinians are merely trying to resist it. However, there is an ever darker side to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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