kevthedee Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33003782?ocid=socialflow_facebook Another slap in the face to the hardworking people of the uk who get 1%or 2% pay rise if their lucky and yet the independent parliamentary standards authority see fit to give our mps 10%,hopefully more mps will give the £7,000 extra to charity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33003782?ocid=socialflow_facebook Another slap in the face to the hardworking people of the uk who get 1%or 2% pay rise if their lucky and yet the independent parliamentary standards authority see fit to give our mps 10%,hopefully more mps will give the £7,000 extra to charity. I bet those nasty, horrid SNP MPs do precisely this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthedee Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 I bet those nasty, horrid SNP MPs do precisely this. Angus robertson is giving his extra away so fair play to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 I'd be all for this if I could get a 10% rise and, as "We're all in this together", I expect all MP's to donate their unwanted extras to charity. I also expect to win the lottery and pump Tori Amos this weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Giving away the pay is a token gesture. Pensions, compensation for loss of office and other benefits are based on the salary. Also, I would like to see what Parliament would do if there were to be a recommended 10% pay rise across the public service by all the independent pay bodies. ETA: All the money donated by MPs to charity should be removed from the aid budget. This is the only way that it does not cost tax payers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33003782?ocid=socialflow_facebook Another slap in the face to the hardworking people of the uk who get 1%or 2% pay rise if their lucky and yet the independent parliamentary standards authority see fit to give our mps 10%,hopefully more mps will give the £7,000 extra to charity. Another massive surprise. Got to make up for all that money lost from fiddling expenses somehow. Advisory consultancies and directorships all round! *hic* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitnail Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 ETA: All the money donated by MPs to charity should be removed from the aid budget. This is the only way that it does not cost tax payers. What a nauseating notion. Anyway, I'm actually in favour of increasing MPs salaries, quite a bit more than this. It is a difficult, time consuming job and they earn far less than many other public servants. I think something in line with what a headteacher in a comprehensive earns is about right - which is apparently around £122,000 a year. There will be plenty of MPs who could earn more elsewhere especially from legal, medicine or finance etc. There are more than a few public servants paid more than the Prime Minister too. I think paying them a bit of a higher wage could not only attract better candidates (to ensure the best aren't taking a big pay cut) but should also prevent them for inappropriate practice in office or just using their position as a stepping stone to get non exec positions. A controversial view, obviously, but the current system is saying MPs are only half as important as public servants ranging from police officers to headteachers. I don't really agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 What a nauseating notion. Anyway, I'm actually in favour of increasing MPs salaries, quite a bit more than this. It is a difficult, time consuming job and they earn far less than many other public servants. I think something in line with what a headteacher in a comprehensive earns is about right - which is apparently around £122,000 a year. There will be plenty of MPs who could earn more elsewhere especially from legal, medicine or finance etc. There are more than a few public servants paid more than the Prime Minister too. I think paying them a bit of a higher wage could not only attract better candidates (to ensure the best aren't taking a big pay cut) but should also prevent them for inappropriate practice in office or just using their position as a stepping stone to get non exec positions. A controversial view, obviously, but the current system is saying MPs are only half as important as public servants ranging from police officers to headteachers. I don't really agree. If only the salaries had been known before they stood for office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitnail Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Well, they are known. Perhaps if they were larger better candidates would stand for office. If we were going by the public barometer on the worth of politicians they wouldn't be paid anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Well, they are known. Perhaps if they were larger better candidates would stand for office. If we were going by the public barometer on the worth of politicians they wouldn't be paid anything. No they would be paid the average earnings of their constituency and required to live in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Well, they are known. Perhaps if they were larger better candidates would stand for office. If we were going by the public barometer on the worth of politicians they wouldn't be paid anything. If yer maw had baws she'd be yer da. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitnail Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 No they would be paid the average earnings of their constituency and required to live in it. Right, so the Kensington constituency attracts a much better MP, who's pulling in well over a million, whilst your local Nottingham MP is earning far less than the minimum wage for the number of hours he/she works? And that's fairness to you? It's not an emotional reaction, the question is how do we value our MPs? If the answer is, half as well as senior policeman / fireman / government bankers then is it any surprise we are unhappy with some of the Eric Joyce esque candidates who rock up? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32414143 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoid android Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33003782?ocid=socialflow_facebook Another slap in the face to the hardworking people of the uk who get 1%or 2% pay rise if their lucky and yet the independent parliamentary standards authority see fit to give our mps 10%,hopefully more mps will give the £7,000 extra to charity. Good to see that Charlotte Church is on the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Right, so the Kensington constituency attracts a much better MP, who's pulling in well over a million, whilst your local Nottingham MP is earning far less than the minimum wage for the number of hours he/she works? And that's fairness to you? It's not an emotional reaction, the question is how do we value our MPs? If the answer is, half as well as senior policeman / fireman / government bankers then is it any surprise we are unhappy with some of the Eric Joyce esque candidates who rock up? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32414143 Shit argument. The reality is that using a different profession to justify an increase is nonsense. I value an MP at a quarter the worth of a squaddie. Even with your Kensington example you chose to ignore the other part of my post - they must live there. Do you think that an MP from Kensington could afford a house in the area even if they were to earn the average of the constituency? So even based on the highest earnings in London, an MP will be above the average earnings of all but a couple of London boroughs. I would be interested in research that shows that the more you pay MPs the better the candidates that are attracted to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Torn two ways. On the one hand it's a difficult political issue whilst austerity continues. On the other hand MPs are definitely underpaid. The irony is those who support austerity are those most likely to take the rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Not all bad for Scotland. More SNP MPs = more payrises for SNP MPs = more money hopefully being passed onto the communities of these MPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 What a nauseating notion. Anyway, I'm actually in favour of increasing MPs salaries, quite a bit more than this. It is a difficult, time consuming job and they earn far less than many other public servants. I think something in line with what a headteacher in a comprehensive earns is about right - which is apparently around £122,000 a year. There will be plenty of MPs who could earn more elsewhere especially from legal, medicine or finance etc. There are more than a few public servants paid more than the Prime Minister too. I think paying them a bit of a higher wage could not only attract better candidates (to ensure the best aren't taking a big pay cut) but should also prevent them for inappropriate practice in office or just using their position as a stepping stone to get non exec positions. A controversial view, obviously, but the current system is saying MPs are only half as important as public servants ranging from police officers to headteachers. I don't really agree. As far as I can tell Headteachers in Scotland don't make anywhere near this figure. We're a small school but our Headie makes about 70 grand. The 'pay peanuts, get monkeys' argument is a crap one. All you do is entice more greedy b*****ds - and I think we have enough of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 The 'pay peanuts, get monkeys' argument is a crap one. All you do is entice more greedy b*****ds - and I think we have enough of them. I had a post all ready along these lines before Chrome crashed on me. It depresses the hell out of me that anyone would think that we should be trying to encourage the avaricious into parliament - we've plenty of those already. Anyone who actually wanted to help make life better in their area would take a look at a £67,000 wage and say, "thank you very much, that's a damned sight more than the vast majority of my potential constituents are earning and, by the way, yeehaa!" On a similar note, anyone have any tales of MPs whose careers have suffered as a result of taking political office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 MPs definitely do get underpaid considering the importance of their job. I'd rather they got a more realistic salary and therefore didn't get ridiculous wage rise proposals every few years. As far as I was aware, they had a relatively low salary due to the fact they could claim so much on expenses. Now that has been stopped, they really should be paid more. Scottish head teachers' salary details here for info https://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6000226 IMO the same people would put themselves forward if pay was higher. Mostly they are in it for the kudos and the power and salary is a secondary concern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 As far as I can tell Headteachers in Scotland don't make anywhere near this figure. We're a small school but our Headie makes about 70 grand. The 'pay peanuts, get monkeys' argument is a crap one. All you do is entice more greedy b*****ds - and I think we have enough of them. I had a wee check earlier on. The top of the pay band in Scotland is £82k for a head teacher. His other arguments don't add up. There are three SNP MP's who are doctors who gave up their jobs to try and make a difference in Westminster. They will be taking substantial pay cuts for their principles. They are far from "monkeys" picking up their "peanuts" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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