Jacksgranda Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39413376 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 31 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39413376 I'll bet they don't try to burgle anyone's house again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 All sorts of jolly japes going on there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Dee Man said: I'll bet they don't try to burgle anyone's house again. The getaway driver is facing 3 murder charges, because she was sitting in a car while her fellow conspirators were getting shot. America's weird. http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/update-woman-arrested-after-broken-arrow-area-man-fatally-shoots/article_64c15c80-0019-56d6-9322-c1b93c0ff5d0.html Edited March 28, 2017 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, kilbowie2002 said: Baffling that she can be done for murder, aggravated home invasion yes but not murder surely? Part of me agrees with stand your ground laws in principle but very open to being abused. If you're involved in a felony where anybody dies, you're guilty of murder. I suppose it avoids "Give it to him" ambiguities. Hunter S Thompson wrote about a case, shortly before he died, where a girl was picked up by a friend who, without her knowing, stopped to rob an off license. He was shot, she was charged with murder and sentenced to life without parole. That's the rough story, tried to google check the details but got led to conspiracy sites about his death instead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, kilbowie2002 said: Yeh i get that thats the theory behind it i just fail to see how it applies in these circumstances given the crime of murder might not have been committed if the stand your ground applies. As I said, America's weird. Whether someone was killed illegally or not doesn't matter, if someone died and you were involved with people attempting to commit a felony, you're guilty of murder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I wonder if there ever been a similar case in the UK. Obviously no gun involved but a home invasion where the owner beats up or kills the intruders and what the outcome was. I guess the home owner would get jail time and the lassie probably wouldn't have. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Cerberus said: I wonder if there ever been a similar case in the UK. Obviously no gun involved but a home invasion where the owner beats up or kills the intruders and what the outcome was. I guess the home owner would get jail time and the lassie probably wouldn't have. There was a famous case a few years ago where a homeowner shot a couple of lads trying to escape over a fence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 1 minute ago, kilbowie2002 said: is that the one with the farmer? Aye. It was tabloids against Guardian readers. Think he got off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 His name was Tony Martin and he shot two burglars in the back with a shotgun as they were leaving his house. With one of them dieing in his driveway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I remember him. He became a hero of the cuntier press. He's since flirted with UKIP and the National Front before endorsing the BNP. Lovely bloke. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainMorton Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 6 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39413376 'Two of the teens are under 17 years old and one is between 18 and 19' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: As I said, America's weird. Whether someone was killed illegally or not doesn't matter, if someone died and you were involved with people attempting to commit a felony, you're guilty of murder. I have a certain sympathy with that. If someone is carrying out a robbery and a person dies as a result even if it's not intentional then I think manslaughter is an insufficient charge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: I have a certain sympathy with that. If someone is carrying out a robbery and a person dies as a result even if it's not intentional then I think manslaughter is an insufficient charge. Even if the person charged wasn't in the building and their friends doing the burglary were the ones killed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 7 hours ago, welshbairn said: Even if the person charged wasn't in the building and their friends doing the burglary were the ones killed? No, let me be specific. If someone breaks into a house and the householder dies then the person breaking in should be held fully responsible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Shooting in a primary school http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39560646?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 San Bernardino is a lawless, gang ridden midden. The kids probably have been in more shootings than math lessons tbh. It should be entirely walled off in an - Escape from New York - type scenario IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 hour ago, doulikefish said: Shooting in a primary school http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39560646?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central But remember, the problem isnt selling guns to any idiot on the street. The problem is that the kids didnt have bazooka's and chain fed machine guns to protect themselves 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Its getting a little headline in the corner of the screen on CNN.James Cook is tweeting that its come to something when a school shooting isn't the main news story. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Just now, mjw said: Its getting a little headline in the corner of the screen on CNN. James Cook is tweeting that its come to something when a school shooting isn't the main news story. Its been like that for years now, its became such a mundane thing which is really messed up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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