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Kicking the can further down the road and keep raking in her gold plated salary for doing little more than moaning. Wonder if the hive will be confused after reading  Emperor Salmond telling May to prepare for indyref 2 in today's tabloids. 

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They don't really do anything at either Westminster of holyrood so they might as well

Kicking the can further down the road and keep raking in her gold plated salary for doing little more than moaning. Wonder if the hive will be confused after reading  Emperor Salmond telling May to prepare for indyref 2 in today's tabloids. 

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35 minutes ago, Colkitto said:

Sturgeon on Marr basically saying what she has said all along - if we're out of the single market then it's indyref2.

Will be interesting to see what May comes up with and if they allow Scotland to stay in.

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58 minutes ago, AyrExile said:

Kicking the can further down the road and keep raking in her gold plated salary for doing little more than moaning. Wonder if the hive will be confused after reading  Emperor Salmond telling May to prepare for indyref 2 in today's tabloids. 

Seem like wee fatso had a word in her ear. Dae wit yer telt or maccivilwar in the snp and nae gold plated salary.

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16 hours ago, jupe1407 said:

For that to make sense, I'd have to have been laughed off the forum previously myself. Given that, unlike H_B, I've never made boastful/ludicrous election predictions, or had to create a new account because I couldn't cope with the humiliation of same, or been laughed at by almost everyone on the board after the Northern Rock fiasco, I can quite categorically state that I've never been laughed off the forum, so your comeback was, like yourself, utterly woeful and pointless. 

Please put some more thought into these efforts in future, or just kill yourself. I'm good with either tbh. 

Seriously sad individual.........quite amusing too !

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Interesting that the "neverendum!!!" patter has now fully transitioned into this stuff about protecting her salary or whatever. Much like the question of whether the SNP are buckled lefty socialists or Tartan Tories, Unionists' have an awful habit of directly contradicting themselves on a minute by minute basis.

On her Marr performance, I suspect a lot of English moderates watching that will be secretly quite annoyed that she is an SNP rather than Labour or Lib Dem politician. The UK as a whole would be much better off if there were a few opposition politicians at Westminster who had the gumption to actually put forward a position and embarrass the UK Government's clowncar response to the Referendum.

I'll put my neck and out and guess that guys like AyrExile can recognise a strong leader when they seen one as well :P

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I like Jupe but shouldn't joke about stuff like that, IMO.

Actually came on here to say how impressed I've been with wee Nicky the last few weeks handling herself incredibly well. Faultless.


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There's far worse on here. The Salmond Birthday thread is a shining example.
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HB could easily avoid getting ripped about his positing history if he wanted.

Incredibly, he still articulates his predictions/personal opinions as facts and laces most of his posts with self congratulatory language about what he's called all along etc.

It's like the guy actually enjoys being laughed at.

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4 hours ago, Colkitto said:

Sturgeon on Marr basically saying what she has said all along - if we're out of the single market then it's indyref2.

I don't understand why Sturgeon wants Scotland to be part of the Single Market and the customs union. Canada's EU trade deal given it access to the Single Market as 98% of the common external tariffs will not apply. A free trade deal with the EU, including services, would be much better for us too. If May gets such a deal would Sturgeon want IndyRef2? I doubt it.

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3 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said:

I don't understand why Sturgeon wants Scotland to be part of the Single Market and the customs union. Canada's EU trade deal given it access to the Single Market as 98% of the common external tariffs will not apply. A free trade deal with the EU, including services, would be much better for us too. If May gets such a deal would Sturgeon want IndyRef2? I doubt it.

A free trade deal, including services, wont happen without free movement.

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33 minutes ago, Alan Stubbs said:

Interesting that the "neverendum!!!" patter has now fully transitioned into this stuff about protecting her salary or whatever. Much like the question of whether the SNP are buckled lefty socialists or Tartan Tories, Unionists' have an awful habit of directly contradicting themselves on a minute by minute basis.

On her Marr performance, I suspect a lot of English moderates watching that will be secretly quite annoyed that she is an SNP rather than Labour or Lib Dem politician. The UK as a whole would be much better off if there were a few opposition politicians at Westminster who had the gumption to actually put forward a position and embarrass the UK Government's clowncar response to the Referendum.

I'll put my neck and out and guess that guys like AyrExile can recognise a strong leader when they seen one as well :P

Strong leader? I will credit her leadership when she shows some and sorts out the day to day issues she was elected for and not focussing on a pipedream the country rejected very recently. Lets see if she's even strong enough to put Salmond back in his cage. Considering the party is run like a communist state where the line is firmly toed pressure must be building each time he has opened his mouth recently. 

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Just now, AUFC90 said:

A free trade deal, including services wont happen without free movement.

Canada's deal does not include free movement. 

The EU has a large deficit with the UK. Its Member States (especially Germany, France, Belgium and the Netherlands) with large exports to the UK will press for such a deal. 

If the EU seeks to charge the Britain for access to the Single Market, Britain can similarly charge the EU for access (i.e. more) to the UK market. 

Outside the EU customs union with its 12,750 tariffs, we can negotiate better trade deals with the likes of US and Australia.

 

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Just now, Bishop Briggs said:

Canada's deal does not include free movement. 

The EU has a large deficit with the UK. Its Member States (especially Germany, France, Belgium and the Netherlands) with large exports to the UK will press for such a deal. 

If the EU seeks to charge the Britain for access to the Single Market, Britain can similarly charge the EU for access (i.e. more) to the UK market. 

Outside the EU customs union with its 12,750 tariffs, we can negotiate better trade deals with the likes of US and Australia.

 

Does it include services ? Which as you know, is of fundamental importance to the UK and Scotlands economy.

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25 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said:

Canada's deal does not include free movement. 

The EU has a large deficit with the UK. Its Member States (especially Germany, France, Belgium and the Netherlands) with large exports to the UK will press for such a deal. 

If the EU seeks to charge the Britain for access to the Single Market, Britain can similarly charge the EU for access (i.e. more) to the UK market. 

Outside the EU customs union with its 12,750 tariffs, we can negotiate better trade deals with the likes of US and Australia.

 

EU accounts for 50% of UK exports

UK accounts for 7% of EU exports

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