RedRob72 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Keep 20th September 2018 free. Hope so, it's a banker for ANOTHER No, we might then be able to put it to bed again for at least another... 6 months. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Massive disclaimer that it came from the fucking Courier but I see they had a story that civil servants have been told to prepare for a referendum in 2018. Even bigger disclaimer needed that all the SNP branch #ITK folk seem to think that's when it'll be as well. Overall though, there does seem to be a lot of talk about one then. HB stating as a matter of fact that it won't happen means it probably will as well. 2 hours ago, Crùbag said: The youth - until age 44 - has it nailed. Not a matter of if Indy happens... You can take the 16-17 year olds with a slight pinch of salt but 70% 24-32? Wooft. The Union really is hanging in on those baby boomers. Which is what makes me really nervous about this 2018 chat. Mind you, if 49% are Yes today and the polls seem to suggest a lot of people want to see what happens with Europe before we have another Referendum, what happens post-Article 50 looks like the clincher at this stage. As someone who would be happy to see a favourable outcome for Scotland from this and a tap-in indyref2 a few years down the line, I'm just delighted to see some close polls now. Scotland would be any easy thing to ignore with the polls at sub 45% type levels. This makes it interesting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Alan Stubbs said: Massive disclaimer that it came from the fucking Courier but I see they had a story that civil servants have been told to prepare for a referendum in 2018. Even bigger disclaimer needed that all the SNP branch #ITK folk seem to think that's when it'll be as well. Overall though, there does seem to be a lot of talk about one then. HB stating as a matter of fact that it won't happen means it probably will as well. The Courier is basically a Dundee-based Daily Mail with a Labour devotee as Political Editor, Kieran Andrews iirc. He posted some tremendously childish editorials after Labour were hosed in the Holyrood elections. I don't bother with it now (because you have to pay for online subscriptions), but it was terrific a while back for winding up Tory voting bigots and 'kippers, and on one occasion, a Tory Councillor across the letters pages. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 To whom are you referring in your first and second sentences? I assume that that third refers to yourself. Re. 2nd sentence, I'm 6ft 4. Re. First sentence, no idea what your havering about 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 The Courier is basically a Dundee-based Daily Mail with a Labour devotee as Political Editor, Kieran Andrews iirc. He posted some tremendously childish editorials after Labour were hosed in the Holyrood elections. I don't bother with it now (because you have to pay for online subscriptions), but it was terrific a while back for winding up Tory voting bigots and 'kippers, and on one occasion, a Tory Councillor across the letters pages. Jenny Hjuls opinion column too. Slit your wrists stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 1 minute ago, 1320Lichtie said: Jenny Hjuls opinion column too. Slit your wrists stuff. I'd forgotten about that cunt. Surely she was basically recycling Alan Cochrane's dirge? Basically a Poundshop Katie Hopkins. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 1 minute ago, jupe1407 said: The Courier is basically a Dundee-based Daily Mail with a Labour devotee as Political Editor, Kieran Andrews iirc. He posted some tremendously childish editorials after Labour were hosed in the Holyrood elections. I don't bother with it now (because you have to pay for online subscriptions), but it was terrific a while back for winding up Tory voting bigots and 'kippers, and on one occasion, a Tory Councillor across the letters pages. Indeed, hence my disclaimer comment. There seems to be a whole lot of chat, none of it particularly trustable in isolation, about 2018. Fuck knows if there's any truth in it but potentially interesting times ahead. I haven't quite got to letters pages yet but the Scotsman's comments section is essential reading atm. Those people sound bizarrely angry when they're being smug and triumphant. Now genuine fear seens to have kicked in and the rage is off the scale 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Game changer.Sturgeon must condemn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Aye. Seen that on Twitter earlier. Genuinely laughed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Alan Stubbs said: Indeed, hence my disclaimer comment. There seems to be a whole lot of chat, none of it particularly trustable in isolation, about 2018. Fuck knows if there's any truth in it but potentially interesting times ahead. I haven't quite got to letters pages yet but the Scotsman's comments section is essential reading atm. Those people sound bizarrely angry when they're being smug and triumphant. Now genuine fear seens to have kicked in and the rage is off the scale Glorious. The Courier alone had been absolutely wonderful reading even since the SNP bitch-slapped Labour in May '15. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMjag Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 On 08/02/2017 at 22:57, mizfit said: I believe that is a Telt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 10 hours ago, RedRob72 said: Hope so, it's a banker for ANOTHER No, we might then be able to put it to bed again for at least another... 6 months. Well that's the thing, we only have to win once. You lot have to win EVERY time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 10 hours ago, Alan Stubbs said: Massive disclaimer that it came from the fucking Courier but I see they had a story that civil servants have been told to prepare for a referendum in 2018. Even bigger disclaimer needed that all the SNP branch #ITK folk seem to think that's when it'll be as well. Overall though, there does seem to be a lot of talk about one then. HB stating as a matter of fact that it won't happen means it probably will as well. You can take the 16-17 year olds with a slight pinch of salt but 70% 24-32? Wooft. The Union really is hanging in on those baby boomers. Which is what makes me really nervous about this 2018 chat. Mind you, if 49% are Yes today and the polls seem to suggest a lot of people want to see what happens with Europe before we have another Referendum, what happens post-Article 50 looks like the clincher at this stage. As someone who would be happy to see a favourable outcome for Scotland from this and a tap-in indyref2 a few years down the line, I'm just delighted to see some close polls now. Scotland would be any easy thing to ignore with the polls at sub 45% type levels. This makes it interesting. If a sub-Daily Mail paper is printing such postive Yes figures for most age-groups then the likliehood of a Yes vote increases surely. As has been pointed out before, we started the last Indyref campaign on 30%. Starting on 49% aint a bad place and it will probably rise before Indyref2 is called. The vote in Scotland is very polarised now with Labour's Unionist right-wing vote having gone en masse to the Tories. Labour's remaining progressive vote has gone to SNP. The positive vibes from England's progressive voters towards Sturgeon will strengthen her position - see this weeks Corbyn ridicule - and has her firm pro-EU and pro-immigration stance. Lots of English and EU voters will be switching sides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Well that's the thing, we only have to win once. You lot have to win EVERY time What no rubber match?? That's not very fair eh? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I'm still a bit unsure of having it next year, but at the same time, the UK government seem to be trying to do as much to help the indy cause as possible, so you never know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Yeah I think Spring 2019 would be a decent period to aim for Gives the UK government more time to be destructive and cunty If Yes doesn't win this time, it's dead for at least 20 years - probably more 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 EU Officials Are Discussing How To Fast-Track An Independent Scotland’s Entry https://www.buzzfeed.com/jamieross/eu-officials-are-discussing-how-to-fast-track-an-independent?utm_term=.uyL5p6Lyy#.wkRx7pdRR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Yeah I think Spring 2019 would be a decent period to aim for Gives the UK government more time to be destructive and cunty If Yes doesn't win this time, it's dead for at least 20 years - probably more Also gives more time to consider a judgement on the SNP's record in Government, which can only be a good thing for the No vote.Think many more will conclude, "do we really want this f*ckin lot leading us into the wilderness"!? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, RedRob72 said: Also gives more time to consider a judgement on the SNP's record in Government, which can only be a good thing for the No vote. Think many more will conclude, "do we really want this f*ckin lot leading us into the wilderness"!? Yes, that's right! You can compare such things as the NHS to any other part of the UK! Maybe not a good idea after all eh? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 EU Officials Are Discussing How To Fast-Track An Independent Scotland’s Entryhttps://www.buzzfeed.com/jamieross/eu-officials-are-discussing-how-to-fast-track-an-independent?utm_term=.uyL5p6Lyy#.wkRx7pdRR Think you're being slightly misleading there, discussion isn't tantamount to agreement.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/10/independent-scotland-would-have-to-apply-for-eu-membership 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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