doulikefish Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/360283/independent-scotland-behind-montenegro-serbia-bosnia-turkey-eu-queue-says-mep/ - "Independent Scotland behind ‘Montenegro, Serbia, Bosnia, Turkey’ in EU queue, says MEP" Montenegro application timetable - https://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/countries/detailed-country-information/montenegro_en Serbia's application will make further progress this year - https://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/countries/detailed-country-information/serbia_en. Quite a lot of chapters closed, i.e. complete. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Anyway ive seen my first Im a proud scot but....." Do i win the bingo? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/360283/independent-scotland-behind-montenegro-serbia-bosnia-turkey-eu-queue-says-mep/ - "Independent Scotland behind ‘Montenegro, Serbia, Bosnia, Turkey’ in EU queue, says MEP" Montenegro application timetable - https://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/countries/detailed-country-information/montenegro_en Serbia's application will make further progress this year - https://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/countries/detailed-country-information/serbia_en. Quite a lot of chapters closed, i.e. complete. So are you,sorry he,saying that an iScotland would not be admitted to the EU untill all these other countries have joined? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, mizfit said: Whats happening in Macedonia? http://www.rferl.org/a/macedonia-analysis-albanian-law-political-crisis-gruevski-zaev-ivanov-vmro/28358253.html http://www.politico.eu/article/post-election-limbo-deepens-macedonian-stand-off-gjorge-ivanov/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 The only prediction that I feel comfortable in making is that Alex Salmond is going to be absolutely fantastic value for the next 18 months. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 The Scottish Greens' external affairs spokesman Ross Greer: “There are five million EU citizens living in Scotland, it's unthinkable that they will be told to join the back of a mythical queue" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Ivo den Bieman said: wow, the word of one Spanish MEP. is that the same guy that said that Spain would definitely be blocking an iScot's application, yeah? I also fail to see where in that Montenegro application summary it says that everyone else has to wait in line until they are successfully admitted to the EU. Many former Warsaw Pact countries, and Slovenia, joined on the same day in June 2004. There is no queue, however much it might suit your agenda to pretend there is. I did not say that. Scotland will be behind the others in the queue because those countries have started the process. It can overtake them but it's not guaranteed. Those Warsaw pact countries had been sovereign and independent for over a decade. They also had their own currencies. Is the SNP going to re-hash Salmond's ridiculous "Sterling-isation" plan? That would certainly not be acceptable. As I said before, EFTA/EEA membership is a quicker and easier alternative to full EU Membership. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Anyway ive seen my first Im a proud scot but....." Do i win the bingo? Just git home from work and fired up FB there...glorious... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, jakedee said: So are you,sorry he,saying that an iScotland would not be admitted to the EU untill all these other countries have joined? No. I'm saying that it's not as simple as many here think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Bishop Briggs said: I did not say that. Scotland will be behind the others in the queue because those countries have started the process. It can overtake them but it's not guaranteed. Those Warsaw pact countries had been sovereign and independent for over a decade. They also had their own currencies. Is the SNP going to re-hash Salmond's ridiculous "Sterling-isation" plan? That would certainly not be acceptable. As I said before, EFTA/EEA membership is a quicker and easier alternative to full EU Membership. Glad we agree. There's no queue here, just a bunch of indivudal applications proceeding at their own pace, with the progress of others irrelevant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Could somebody please shut down Jamie Ross' Twitter account for the next, say, eighteen or so months? Many thanks in advance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just now, Ivo den Bieman said: Glad we agree. There's no queue here, just a bunch of indivudal applications proceeding at their own pace, with the progress of others irrelevant. Much will depend on how the Commission allocates its resources to the various applications. The financial issues and currency issue will be the toughest to deal with. It's a bit like the SFL admitting Sevco without the necessary four years of accounts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 It's probably been said a load of times already, but I'm hugely looking forward to how the Brexiteers react to their arguments being fired straight back at them. I've just read a Spectactor article on indyref2, and the BTL comments there are enough to turn me into a rabid cybernat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hillonearth said: Just git home from work and fired up FB there...glorious... This is brilliant and its on days like this that I miss my dear friend Reynard. I wonder just apoplectic he is, would he simply be or full shotgun tooled up ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Bishop Briggs said: Much will depend on how the Commission allocates its resources to the various applications. The financial issues and currency issue will be the toughest to deal with. It's a bit like the SFL admitting Sevco without the necessary four years of accounts. as always with the EU, realpolitik trumps everything else. A process will have to be gone through but there are compelling political reasons for the EU to get a move on with any Scottish application. I imagine in the high stakes poker game of Brexit the Commission might just throw a few resources to help oil the wheels. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 At least Nick Robinson has moved on ... although I feel my wee crush on Laura Kuenssberg is going to be put under strain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Professor John Curtice on 5Live talking about a report Andrew Wilson has been working on that may answer the currency issue.He also debunked the 'you must join the Euro' chat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just now, Ivo den Bieman said: as always with the EU, realpolitik trumps everything else. A process will have to be gone through but there are compelling political reasons for the EU to get a move on with any Scottish application. I imagine in the high stakes poker game of Brexit the Commission might just throw a few resources to help oil the wheels. And, under realpolitik, the Spanish might try to stop it. Given the popularity of the Flemish nationalists, the Belgian Government could chip in too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Ivo den Bieman said: as always with the EU, realpolitik trumps everything else. A process will have to be gone through but there are compelling political reasons for the EU to get a move on with any Scottish application. I imagine in the high stakes poker game of Brexit the Commission might just throw a few resources to help oil the wheels. The timing is ideal for making friends with countries angry with London throwing the toys out of the pram for cynical, political reasons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, sophia said: This is brilliant and its on days like this that I miss my dear friend Reynard. I wonder just apoplectic he is, would he simply be or full shotgun tooled up ? Just had a look on his twitter timeline,just lots of retweets from 2 job tompkins,no real breakdowns 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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