Fide Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 4 hours ago, philyerboots said: You're either on a trolling mission, or you're genuinely as thick as a whale shite. For the sake of your family, I hope it's the former. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossbill Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) This almost slipped by unnoticed. So, what exactly would you anticipate from this Tory government, given powers to unilaterally alter the devolution settlement. I'm sure it's all perfectly benign. Edited March 30, 2017 by Crossbill 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 New powers being discussed? Must be the unionists flapping at the thought of independence again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 Wonder if it would be possible for all devolved administrations to join together in an act of non-cooperation with the UK government over the Great Repeal Bill? I know that the N.I parliament is not operating at the moment, but could be in a matter of weeks and Sinn Fein would be sympathetic to the Scottish government request to hold legal referendum. Wales Assembly is Labour led but joining with N.Ireland and Scotland would put huge pressure on May, especially during Brexit negotiations. And the Welsh FM has said the will of the Scottish parliament should be up held. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Labour putting pressure on May? That'll be a new tactic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Does the Scottish parliament have the power to call a snap election? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I know that the N.I parliament is not operating at the moment, but could be in a matter of weeks and Sinn Fein would be sympathetic to the Scottish government request to hold legal referendum. The 'Billy Boys' will not like this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) "without the Scottish oil... little England doesn't have much to sell" And Theresa May thinks the Yanks are dying to do business with Brexit Britain... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-03-28/jim-rogers-asks-if-scotland-pushes-pound-to-0-80-video Edited March 30, 2017 by Crùbag 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 https://www.commonspace.scot/articles/10672/robin-mcalpine-be-careful-it-isnt-gers-thats-con-its-spin-it-thats-problem Good article that. "Let's be clear what GERS would demonstrate if we applied it elsewhere: GERS would show that if the Netherlands, for example, lost its sovereignty and became a region of the UK, its economy would become weaker... However, (mainly) London would benefit substantially, which means the Dutch would gain the joy of being lectured about why the UK's 'pooling and sharing' is so important to a basket case like them" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Silvio said: Does the Scottish parliament have the power to call a snap election? I think it's a fixed term Parliament, I'm not sure if there's any specific circumstances (e.g. Inability to agree on a budget) that can trigger an election. Westminster is also fixed term IIRC but all they need is a simple majority to introduce primary legislation to change that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 23 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I think it's a fixed term Parliament, I'm not sure if there's any specific circumstances (e.g. Inability to agree on a budget) that can trigger an election. Westminster is also fixed term IIRC but all they need is a simple majority to introduce primary legislation to change that. Sturgeon could resign and the SNP could vote against any proposed new First Minister, triggering an election. But anything like that would be nuts. If the electorate are a bit fashed with referendums, forcing another election is hardly going to go down well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) 23 hours ago, Wasperoonie said: I'm still a bit baffled, SNP say Scotland didn't vote for brexit, Tories say the UK overall did. Who is technically, legally, morally correct in this? The British government is responsible for economic and foreign affairs. We, not me personally, but Scotland as a whole, agreed to these terms and conditions when we voted for a devolved parliament and No in the referendum. I don't agree personally with what is happening currently at a national level but I don't think Scotland as a whole has much ground for complaint here. If you want to dictate your own economic and foreign policies you don't agree to remain part of the Union. Simple as that. That's what we did and we are now living with the repercussions of that terribly ill founded decision. The focus should be on gaining independence, whether we are in or out of the EU. I believe leaving the EU is a big enough change in circumstances to trigger a second referendum provided independence seeking parties hold on to government at Holyrood and keep the majority of Westminster seats. The mandate is there. We just have to wait now until such times as the British government negotiates a deal with the EU and everyone has a clearer picture of the state of affairs. Right now however we are 10% divided in economic and foreign policy making. We agreed to that and we just have to sup it up for the time being. Edited March 30, 2017 by Ya Bezzer! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapelhall chap Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 23 hours ago, sophia said: May interviewed by shredded wheat head ... swh - The £350m on the bus May - that was during the referendum, lots was said on both sides, now is the time to get on with the business (paraphrasing) swh - Are you ruling out a Scottish referendum in principle May - The SNP said "once in a generation" in 2014, so that's that Its utterly incoherent, but I suppose now is not the time for me to get too upset that the Prime Minister is struggling so badly. Yes I spotted this last night but AN let her away with that inconsistency. He usually grills everyone else .My local election leaflet has Ruth Davidson quoting it as a "once in a lifetime" ,and then adds on decision in no quotes. I may be wrong but I am sure it was "opportunity" or "chance". It was a prisoner of a comment at the time but like many others ,I had the holiday of a lifetime once in my early days but I have revisited holidays many times since then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapelhall chap Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: I think it's a fixed term Parliament, I'm not sure if there's any specific circumstances (e.g. Inability to agree on a budget) that can trigger an election. Westminster is also fixed term IIRC but all they need is a simple majority to introduce primary legislation to change that. I think the WestminsterFT Act needs a 2/3 majority to overturn it, or the government of the day proposes a vote of No confidence which if lost on a simple majority, allows the main opposition party a period of time to persuade the Monarch that it can form a government. I am not sure if there is a time limit of 2 weeks but if they cant gain majority( or anyone else from the opposition benches), the monarch dissolves Westminster. Theresa May will not do the latter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Chapelhall chap said: I think the WestminsterFT Act needs a 2/3 majority to overturn it, or the government of the day proposes a vote of No confidence which if lost on a simple majority, allows the main opposition party a period of time to persuade the Monarch that it can form a government. I am not sure if there is a time limit of 2 weeks but if they cant gain majority( or anyone else from the opposition benches), the monarch dissolves Westminster. Theresa May will not do the latter. I am happy to be corrected if wrong but there is no legislation in Westminster that requires a 2/3 majority or if there is that legislation in turn could be repealed by a simple majority. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapelhall chap Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Just now, Granny Danger said: I am happy to be corrected if wrong but there is no legislation in Westminster that requires a 2/3 majority or if there is that legislation in turn could be repealed by a simple majority. Did not know that ; I am sure I heard it being discussed on the Daily Politics but it was A the BBC and Andrew Neill. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapelhall chap Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 According to Wikipedia but not the BBC Section 2 of the Act also provides for two ways in which a general election can be held before the end of this five-year period:[2] If the House of Commons resolves "That this House has no confidence in Her Majesty's Government", an early general election is held, unless the House of Commons subsequently resolves "That this House has confidence in Her Majesty's Government". This second resolution must be made within fourteen days of the first. If the House of Commons, with the support of two-thirds of its total membership (including vacant seats), resolves "That there shall be an early parliamentary general election". In either of these two cases, the Monarch (on the recommendation of the prime minister) appoints the date of the new election by proclamation. Parliament is then dissolved 25 working days before that date. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 That's some top trolling with the photo, wee hint of a saltire in the background, g&t on the case, fabulous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 #wid 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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