NotThePars Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, Detournement said: Indyref2 is so unlikely now SNP officials are starting to talk about DevoMax. Will be funny when stopped clock David Jamieson calls this right 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2022/0105/1272020-highest-ever-take-take-of-68-4bn-exchequer-returns/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Ferrino Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2022/0105/1272020-highest-ever-take-take-of-68-4bn-exchequer-returns/ You can't buy a house if you're not allowed to even apply for a mortgage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 You can't buy a house if you're not allowed to even apply for a mortgage.So many inaccuracies in that statement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Ferrino Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: 21 minutes ago, Tony Ferrino said: You can't buy a house if you're not allowed to even apply for a mortgage. So many inaccuracies in that statement Ok, cash buyers. Hu hu. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Sannox Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 I reckon it’s dead in the water. Even with the worst Prime Minister in Britain’s history at the helm, the SNP have been found wanting and exposed as the silly little, tinpot cult that they are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Detournement said: Indyref2 is so unlikely now SNP officials are starting to talk about DevoMax. Chris Hanlon is a fucking weirdo who somehow managed to stumble into being policy officer on a platform of anti-everything about the SNP which was enough to pull together a broad coalition of Salmondistas, TERFS, the TU Group, the Socialists and Gerry Fisher. This may make him the greatest leader of our time right enough. He was of course emptied at the first opportunity last year. The Policy Officer is essentially a minute secretary for the NEC and a resource to assist members to draft competent motions. People like this are why I'm entirely comfortable with the party having an unelected unaccountable shadow leadership. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Being discussed on Radio Scotland the now. I'm having fun working out how many of the callers are lying about their 2014 vote 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just the £875 seems like a bit of a bargain now. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2023 NS will ask (presumably) Sunak by then, to be told 'no'....so whats the plan? Surely have to enter the GE saying that a clear majority of Scottish seats means a start to negotiations, as suggested before. If the Tories block that outcome, take them to court. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 There is absolutely no chance NS delivers an IndyRef, let alone wins one. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 9 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: There is absolutely no chance NS delivers an IndyRef, let alone wins one. You succinctly demonstrate a grasp of nuance so skewed that I wonder where you've been these last two years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just the £875 seems like a bit of a bargain now. It's almost the same poster they used in 2014.They really are a bunch of duplicitous wankers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 You succinctly demonstrate a grasp of nuance so skewed that I wonder where you've been these last two years On the Covid thread . . . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 I see the ‘who pays Scotland’s state pension’ debate has opened up again? Time for the Nats to come clean on this one and be honest that there is NO pot available and a new SG will be responsible for paying them from day 1.out of new contributions. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 18 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: It's almost the same poster they used in 2014. They really are a bunch of duplicitous wankers. It is the same poster - it's a tweet from 2014 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 I see the ‘who pays Scotland’s state pension’ debate has opened up again? Time for the Nats to come clean on this one and be honest that there is NO pot available and a new SG will be responsible for paying them from day 1.out of new contributions.No debate, Murdo Fraser regurgitated the same nonsense that was spewed out by Better Together in 2014. Which was debunked by ...the DWP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 24 minutes ago, jakedee said: 54 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: I see the ‘who pays Scotland’s state pension’ debate has opened up again? Time for the Nats to come clean on this one and be honest that there is NO pot available and a new SG will be responsible for paying them from day 1.out of new contributions. No debate, Murdo Fraser regurgitated the same nonsense that was spewed out by Better Together in 2014. Which was debunked by ...the DWP. I think you’ll find that the DWP subsequently stated that ‘it would be the responsibility of any new SG to pay the state pensions of its citizens from the date of independence’. Just as in the UK, current pensions are paid out of current contributions. The entitlement is built up over many years within the UK system but payment is the business of the particular government at the time. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Dawson Park Boy said: I think you’ll find that the DWP subsequently stated that ‘it would be the responsibility of any new SG to pay the state pensions of its citizens from the date of independence’. Just as in the UK, current pensions are paid out of current contributions. The entitlement is built up over many years within the UK system but payment is the business of the particular government at the time. Obviously it comes from current contributions. Which makes this a real non story. Unfortunately there are still plenty of dumplings that buy the "paying into the big UK pot" story and they are exactly the demographic that such unionist propaganda is aimed at. The logical assumption is that Scotgov will finance pensions similar to how UK gov does just now........Unless we can build up some kind of sovereign wealth fund (aka Norway) .....you know like Scotland should have been able to do over the last 40 years, if it hadn't been saddled to a big leech. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, git-intae-thum said: Obviously it comes from current contributions. Which makes this a real non story. Unfortunately there are still plenty of dumplings that buy the "paying into the big UK pot" story and they are exactly the demographic that such unionist propaganda is aimed at. The logical assumption is that Scotgov will finance pensions similar to how UK gov does just now........Unless we can build up some kind of sovereign wealth fund (aka Norway) .....you know like Scotland should have been able to do over the last 40 years, if it hadn't been saddled to a big leech. "Saddled to a big leech". Love it. Things must be desperate it DPB has spun the 2014 wheel of shite and landed on Pensions. I'll consider that one after I've done a bit of bin diving for the kids tea and flung the frozen corpse of grandma Agnes into the canal. When the C1 demographic starts to think that the UK is a busted flush, that's the tipping point. I think we're at that now. The poor and vulnerable are facing destitution despite the SG offering a bit more support to these groups. The formerly "just getting by" are about to get a kicking. When you don't see any benefit to your hard work, financial struggle and hardship ahead and your children having potentially fewer life chances and a lower standard of living than you- it's not so much of a jump. Factor in the circus down south and the fact that STILL, England can't face voting for Labour, I mean, come on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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