When will indyref2 happen?

[Baxter Parp]

3 hours ago, SandyCromarty said:

For fecks sake who you trying to kid that's confirmation from a tory pamphlet on another thread.

The pamphlet's only good for wiping yer arse.

That's the joke, yes.

[SandyCromarty]

Totally surprised that since I mentioned a few days ago that The SNP had a created a Scottish Central Bank with 2 Billion funding back in Nov 2020 that none of the unionists on here have mentioned it nor welcomed the fact that Scotlands application to join the EU will be acceptable now that we have The Scottish National Investment Bank which will be able to issue our own currency.

[Boo Khaki]

'but you'll have to join the Euro'

You can wheel that one out before or after all the claims about no being allowed to join in the first place, it doesn't appear to matter.

[Dawson Park Boy]

1 hour ago, SandyCromarty said:

Totally surprised that since I mentioned a few days ago that The SNP had a created a Scottish Central Bank with 2 Billion funding back in Nov 2020 that none of the unionists on here have mentioned it nor welcomed the fact that Scotlands application to join the EU will be acceptable now that we have The Scottish National Investment Bank which will be able to issue our own currency.

2bn sounds peanuts, Sandy.

What has it invested in since incorporation?

Prestwick Airport

Ferries

Any ideas?

Seem to recall RBS went down for around 50bn.

[SANTAN]

2 minutes ago, Pato said:

Cursed numbers return

https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/support-scottish-independence-falls-back

I respect this profoundly. 

[SandyCromarty]

1 hour ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

2bn sounds peanuts, Sandy.

What has it invested in since incorporation?

Prestwick Airport

Ferries

Any ideas?

Seem to recall RBS went down for around 50bn.

The Scottish National Investment Bank has been set up by the SNP Government purely in preparation for Independent Scotland's  application to join the EU where it will be Scotlands Central Bank as required by the application process.

However that shouldn't stop you applying for a loan to The SNB to fund new roller skates or a tricycle. Enjoy yersel.

[Baxter Parp]

‘Up to Scottish people’ whether second independence referendum is held, Cabinet minister says

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/scottish-second-referendum-latest-b1810238.html

 

[Chapelhall chap]

9 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said:

‘Up to Scottish people’ whether second independence referendum is held, Cabinet minister says

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/scottish-second-referendum-latest-b1810238.html

 

Given that he has reduced a generation to 25( even if no such time period was ever mentioned) rather than the 40 of Alister Jack, his Cabinet position looks shaky---if he sticks by what he said. He will soon row back and say he was misquoted.

[BFTD]

Christ, this whole process of politicians plucking figures out of the air as it suits them is incredibly tedious. Starting to understand why some folk are so desperate to just UDI and skip straight to the end game.

Not desperate enough to agree, but seriously, who gives a f**k what some chancing politico thinks about Scottish independence.

[John Lambies Doos]

Sturgeon should, go..SNP dismand, and UDI called..
Something like that...[emoji848]

[SANTAN]

I'm looking for a sincere answer here from people that would class themselves as pro Indy, trolls need not apply.

If the UK had voted to Remain in the EU what argument would you be making re fluid democracy, a lot of people say that Brexit was a material change, if there wasn't this material change would anyone here admit to not thinking there should be a referendum for a considerable amount of time or would you have been the same level of expectancy over a referendum?

[John Lambies Doos]

I'm looking for a sincere answer here from people that would class themselves as pro Indy, trolls need not apply.
If the UK had voted to Remain in the EU what argument would you be making re fluid democracy, a lot of people say that Brexit was a material change, if there wasn't this material change would anyone here admit to not thinking there should be a referendum for a considerable amount of time or would you have been the same level of expectancy over a referendum?

I'd have thought 10yrs was reasonable if opinion polls were showing a growing appetite, regardless of Brexit.

[MONKMAN]

I'm looking for a sincere answer here from people that would class themselves as pro Indy, trolls need not apply.
If the UK had voted to Remain in the EU what argument would you be making re fluid democracy, a lot of people say that Brexit was a material change, if there wasn't this material change would anyone here admit to not thinking there should be a referendum for a considerable amount of time or would you have been the same level of expectancy over a referendum?

Serious answer... if the people of Scotland elect a government who campaign with the intention of holding an independence referendum, then that should be a clear enough mandate. To deny this is clearly undemocratic.

[ICTJohnboy]

21 minutes ago, Stormzy said:

I'm looking for a sincere answer here from people that would class themselves as pro Indy, trolls need not apply.

If the UK had voted to Remain in the EU what argument would you be making re fluid democracy, a lot of people say that Brexit was a material change, if there wasn't this material change would anyone here admit to not thinking there should be a referendum for a considerable amount of time or would you have been the same level of expectancy over a referendum?

The combination of Brexit coupled with a BJ government was always going to hasten demands for indyref2.  

 

 

[SANTAN]

10 minutes ago, MONKMAN said:

 

Serious answer... if the people of Scotland elect a government who campaign with the intention of holding an independence referendum, then that should be a clear enough mandate. To deny this is clearly undemocratic.

 

So theoretically we would have a referendum every time that the SNP gained a majority? 

[MONKMAN]

4 minutes ago, Stormzy said:

So theoretically we would have a referendum every time that the SNP gained a majority? 

Theoretically, yes. Genuine question, what would be your reason for opposing this? 

[WilliamBragg]

10 minutes ago, Stormzy said:

So theoretically we would have a referendum every time that the SNP gained a majority? 

The Conservative Party won in December. 

Why bother having another election?

One vote should in a lifetime should be enough. 

[SANTAN]

5 minutes ago, MONKMAN said:

Theoretically, yes. Genuine question, what would be your reason for opposing this? 

I don't think it's a good thing for any society to constantly have referendums, let's say theoretically in your scenario if Yes kept getting 40% and we kept on having referendums it would be pointless, there needs to be something more long term or substantive imo to merit them. I know a few people that vote SNP that don't support Indy. 

I'm similar to what JLD said, closer to every 10 years or some arbitrary number unless there was a better system in place. I'd prefer if people didn't want one but I'm not someone that would deny the right to have one. 

[SANTAN]

1 minute ago, WilliamBragg said:

The Conservative Party won in December. 

Why bother having another election?

One vote should in a lifetime should be enough. 

 

[WilliamBragg]

Just now, Stormzy said:

 

Isn't that what you believers of the once in a generation believe?