cmontheloknow Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 In another working life I aspired to be a football writer (and for a short time was, however niche it might have been). I had a chat with a few people in the industry about the best way to go about it. Quite late in the day and well after graduating in something semi-useful but unrelated to journalism, I applied for what was called the Donald Dewar Scholarship at the Daily Record... https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Follow+your+dream+with+the+Dewar+Scholarship%3B+We+launch+search+for...-a071825897 I got to the interview stage where is was stated by the person in charge 'we want good journalists, not good writers'. It probably wasn't for me. I kind of ensured that by telling that very Scottish person during the 1-2-1 that rounded off the day that my favourite radio station was 5Live and my favourite columnist wrote for a rival of theirs. I've always valued honesty and integrity above a quick buck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JTS98 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said: In another working life I aspired to be a football writer (and for a short time was, however niche it might have been). I had a chat with a few people in the industry about the best way to go about it. Quite late in the day and well after graduating in something semi-useful but unrelated to journalism, I applied for what was called the Donald Dewar Scholarship at the Daily Record... https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Follow+your+dream+with+the+Dewar+Scholarship%3B+We+launch+search+for...-a071825897 I got to the interview stage where is was stated by the person in charge 'we want good journalists, not good writers'. It probably wasn't for me. I kind of ensured that by telling that very Scottish person during the 1-2-1 that rounded off the day that my favourite radio station was 5Live and my favourite columnist wrote for a rival of theirs. I've always valued honesty and integrity above a quick buck! I've got a mate who is a journalist has done some freelance stuff on football for some tabloids. He says the hardest part about it is forgetting how to write properly and completely change your style to appeal to imbeciles. Anything resembling 'good' writing will not be published. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 14 hours ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Apart from the Sunday Sport. That was mostly about Elvis flying Hitler to the moon in a B52 bomber for a party on his red London bus. And tits. Elvis SWOOPED IN to fly Hitler to the moon in a B52 bomber for a SUCCULENT LAMB DINNER party on his red London bus. And INSISTED on tits. Re-written as Keith Jackson headline with the required but unnecessary extra words 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 There is no journalist I despise more than Keith Jackson. The guy will probably be making very decent money when, essentially, he's a laughing stock. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 So, have the annual prediction articles come out yet? They're always full of rigorous research and expert analysis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobles Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 So, have the annual prediction articles come out yet? They're always full of rigorous research and expert analysis.Top FlightCeltic 85% Rangers 15%League CupCeltic 50% Rangers 40% Diddies 10%Scottish CupCeltic 40% Rangers 50 % Diddies 10%Championship /League 1/League 2Who? Er, Third Lanark 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Adam Rooney, an aging footballer of limited ability, who was almost certainly going to be Aberdeen's third-choice striker this coming season if he had elected to remain with us, signing for a millionaires' vanity project, Salford City, increasing his salary and most likely securing more regular football along the way, is, according to this, a "symbol of the decline of Scottish football". https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/07/23/adam-rooneys-tier-dropping-transfer-aberdeen-salford-symbol/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaikuHibee Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 32 minutes ago, DrewDon said: Adam Rooney, an aging footballer of limited ability, who was almost certainly going to be Aberdeen's third-choice striker this coming season if he had elected to remain with us, signing for a millionaires' vanity project, Salford City, increasing his salary and most likely securing more regular football along the way, is, according to this, a "symbol of the decline of Scottish football". https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/07/23/adam-rooneys-tier-dropping-transfer-aberdeen-salford-symbol/ Quote I long for the day when those in England don’t have to listen anymore to the Scottish football results on a Saturday afternoon - a total irrelevance to the vast majority south of the border. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 On 23/07/2018 at 08:52, JTS98 said: I've got a mate who is a journalist has done some freelance stuff on football for some tabloids. He says the hardest part about it is forgetting how to write properly and completely change your style to appeal to imbeciles. Anything resembling 'good' writing will not be published. That's bollocks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JTS98 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Darren said: That's bollocks. Care to expand? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Koop Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 On 7/23/2018 at 11:52, JTS98 said: I've got a mate who is a journalist has done some freelance stuff on football for some tabloids. He says the hardest part about it is forgetting how to write properly and completely change your style to appeal to imbeciles. Anything resembling 'good' writing will not be published. Did he admit this or insist upon it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dr Koop said: Did he admit this or insist upon it? I think you'll find he slammed the tabloid press in a sensational broadside. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Koop Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Savage Henry said: I think you'll find he slammed the tabloid press in a sensational broadside. But was it a 'quality' sensational broadside justifying the gaffer's faith in the hitkid who's been linked with a multi-million pound summer swoop by Big Soccer? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Dr Koop said: But was it a 'quality' sensational broadside justifying the gaffer's faith in the hitkid who's been linked with a multi-million pound summer swoop by Big Soccer? Have beaks given a stunning green light to break open the warchest? In other news, I have no desire whatsoever to read this article. Quote Former Scotland manager Gordon Strachan is holding talks with the Scottish Government in an attempt to use football as a fix for the country's broken society. (Daily Record) Edited July 25, 2018 by Savage Henry 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: beaks My absolute favourite - only used in football writing or the reporting of gangster trials (where a lorry load of snouts was stolen). In old school tabloid writing, they were always "Park Gardens Beaks", which was presumably code for SFA Supremo Jim Farry. My other favourite is "a nonsense", exclusively used - and mandatory - when a tabloid hack is asked to write an opinion piece. Eg, "Making Rangers start again in the lowest division is a nonsense" Says Keith Jackson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Swello said: My absolute favourite - only used in football writing or the reporting of gangster trials (where a lorry load of snouts was stolen). In old school tabloid writing, they were always "Park Gardens Beaks", which was presumably code for SFA Supremo Jim Farry. My other favourite is "a nonsense", exclusively used - and mandatory - when a tabloid hack is asked to write an opinion piece. Eg, "Making Rangers start again in the lowest division is a nonsense" Says Keith Jackson It is a uniquely tabloid idiom. My personal "favourites" are managers who can't pronounce the word "our" and say "wurr" instead, and (usually the self-same) managers who say "it augurs well". Nobody else has ever said "augurs well". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torfason Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Burnley manager Sean Dyche has shot down all Battle of Britain Celtic keeper Gordon has warned his sideOsijek skipper Borna Barisic insistsRangers are set for a showdownIf only they could use more dramatic terms [emoji849] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefan27 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) Bad result for the Killie last night, surprised more isn't being made of an absolute horsing from a non-league team... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44947344 Edited July 25, 2018 by killiefan27 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Koop Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Savage Henry said: Have beaks given a stunning green light to break open the warchest? In other news, I have no desire whatsoever to read this article. Really, if people want a broken society to fix either give post-Brexit UK about 18 months or get their arses to Iraq. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Koop Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Torfason said: Burnley manager Sean Dyche has shot down all Battle of Britain Celtic keeper Gordon has warned his side Osijek skipper Borna Barisic insists Rangers are set for a showdown If only they could use more dramatic terms 'Shot down' and 'Battle of Britain'. I saw what they did there. Repeat please. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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