WaffenThinMint Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 4 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: They should have reported the transfers then There's something not quite right here Looks like the straightforward transfer of the Lib Dem votes to the Tories, don't see anything out of the ordinary there. One seat was SNP, but the other was the replacement of the "Legogate" councillor where the Lib Dem chunt came back from a Denmark junket in a huff because his accomodation wasn't swish enough for him. With the SNP being the admin, voters were always likely to vote Tory if they wanted to say "f**k you!" to the council over junketing at a time of cuts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Looks like the straightforward transfer of the Lib Dem votes to the Tories, don't see anything out of the ordinary there. One seat was SNP, but the other was the replacement of the "Legogate" councillor where the Lib Dem chunt came back from a Denmark junket in a huff because his accomodation wasn't swish enough for him. With the SNP being the admin, voters were always likely to vote Tory if they wanted to say "f**k you!" to the council over junketing at a time of cuts. I was't suggesting anything seriously wrong in the process or the result just in the wording of the announcement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: I was't suggesting anything seriously wrong in the process or the result just in the wording of the announcement. Probably wanting to do the bare minimum required before pissing off early for the weekend, with a full breakdown being available in .pdf format for download sometime next week. One of the problems regarding council by-elections (and full council elections for that matter) is that there's no written in stone format for them to follow, which means you can have one where the returning officer is a total stats freak that will provide a detailed analysis of HJ proportions (including whether each candidate/party's share of the vote has gone up or down - saving the stattos the bother of having to calculate it themselves), or at the other extreme some lazy bugger posting up the bare minimum on the day & the rest when they can be arsed. You can also find yourself up against some w****r like James McGuire Smith for Dumfries and Galloway getting a petted lip because the Tory candidate has lost their seat and behaving truculently, whereupon you may have to send a formal request sent in triplicate which will be acknowledged by one of his minions in a month's time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Probably wanting to do the bare minimum required before pissing off early for the weekend, with a full breakdown being available in .pdf format for download sometime next week. One of the problems regarding council by-elections (and full council elections for that matter) is that there's no written in stone format for them to follow, which means you can have one where the returning officer is a total stats freak that will provide a detailed analysis of HJ proportions (including whether each candidate/party's share of the vote has gone up or down - saving the stattos the bother of having to calculate it themselves), or at the other extreme some lazy bugger posting up the bare minimum on the day & the rest when they can be arsed. A reasonable working hypothesis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 A wee SNP gainhttp://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-38147240 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 2 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: A wee SNP gainhttp://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-38147240 Previous ward results: May 2012 :SNP 1624 Ind 955 C 547 Lab 472 LD 109 May 2007 : SNP 1902 Ind 1322 C 789 Lab 677 LD 504 The seat was certainly a personal hold for one of the Spinks families (they of the Smokies) who got a quarter of all the first preference votes alone, & with them out of the equation the SNP were always the best placed to pick up, especially with such a poor turnout of 21.5%. Interesting to see the Tory candidate picked up the best from the Spinks departure, considering how unpopular the Tories have been amongst the fishing community over being largely for the Remain campaign. The plot further thickens with rumours the Tory election agent didn't exactly do a day's work over personal axes to grind with their candidate. Atypical bad turnout means bad Labour night (almost a quarter of their vote could only be arsed), but what were the LibDems thinking standing someone from Forfar as their candidate in Arbroath (& one that's only moved up recently from York at that!)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 The Lib Dems are saying they will win Richmond Park tomorrow - https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/30/lib-dems-eye-victory-over-zac-goldsmith-richmond-park. "The party’s internal data, seen by the Guardian, predicts the Lib Dem candidate, Sarah Olney, will win 47.2% of the vote on Thursday, edging ahead of the former London mayoral candidate on 45.8%. Labour’s Christian Wolmar will trail on just 6.2%, the party’s modelling claims. "Lib Dem sources said activists knocked on 20,000 doors last weekend alone and estimated they had spoken to 52% of eligible voters over the course of the campaign." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 On 04/11/2016 at 16:26, Peppino Impastato said: Yip, clowns that think the UK government give a f**k about fishermen in Peterhead need lobotomised. They are a bargaining chip is all. Not a problem. Michael Gove is unaware of any fishermen in Peterborough. .. or Fraserhead - wherever that is! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Looks like Richmond Park will go down to the wire. If the Lib Dems win, cue them saying that winning one of the most remain constituencies in the nation is a clear sign that we don't want Brexit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Malkmus Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 No chance of that, Goldsmith will piss it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 No chance of that, Goldsmith will piss it. I'm not so sure, people have been saying they'll be just a couple thousand votes either way.LDs held this seat until 2010 + they are masters at by-elections and have a strong grassroots here. Goldsmith I assume has been hampered by campaigning as an independent, even though the Tory association back him. Hopefully Zac wins by less than the amount of votes Labour get in 3rd place and LDs seethe about Labour daring to stand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamski Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 The bookies seem to think the Lib Dems are going to do this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Malkmus Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 I'll retract my previous comment. The Lib Dems are pissing it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Aye, Labour are calling it and Lib Dems are "cautiously optimistic". Around a couple thousand ahead, apparently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Lib Dema will take the seat, with Labour set to lose their deposit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 It's started! A Lib Dem telling me that this result shows that the country don't want Brexit. A 70% Remain voting - average house price of £1m - constituency is representative. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 The country doesn't, it voted 62% remain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Ferrino Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Get in there... Tim Farron for p.m. We need more nice people in power in politics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Goldsmith is about as genuine as a Rolex bought at a Car boot. Lib Dems to take this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Lib Dems by a couple of '000 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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