Monster Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I fear for Murray. Gasquet is dangerous, and a very tough 1st round draw. I reckon he could lose. He needs his form of last year back, and fast. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 But it's not. See, I can quote selectively too. Err, yes, but we are talking about clay and the comment that Murray is a poor clay courter. Form on other surfaces is irrelevant. Poor is perhaps a slight exaggeration from the poster, but he is never going to be a threat to even the sub-Nadal and Federer tier of clay courters like Ferrer, Nalbandian, Del Potro when fit etc. In short, he won't make it past the first week and maybe not even today, albeit he has been very unlucky to draw an in form Gasquet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jambo-rocker Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I can see this going to five sets already... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I can see this going to five sets already... That would suit Murray. Gasquet's never the fittest and it's warm. If Murray can get it to five sets I reckon he can win it. Gasquet will want it in three. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 This is 3-0 Gasquet all day. Murray is poor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 But he's not apparently, except when he is. He's not in Gasquet's class on clay. To be fair, Gasquet should be ranked 10 or 11 in the world overall, and probably 6 or 7 on clay. Murray wouldn't be top 20 in my book. More time to prepare for Wimbers if he gets pumped today. He's got to start showing something a hell of a lot better than he has or this season is a total write off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I'd certainly fancy Gasquet to win fairly comfortably if he was fully fit and able. He isn't though so we'll see. Murray hasn't been in great form generally for a while and doesn't do well on clay anyway. It's a poor draw for him. Think Murray will win fairly comfortably today. It's not true that he's poor on clay - QF last year - he just can't match up to relentless hitters on the surface. Gasquet isn't one of those players, he's more like Murray in how he plays and AM usually beats those types. Err, yes, but we are talking about clay and the comment that Murray is a poor clay courter. Form on other surfaces is irrelevant. Poor is perhaps a slight exaggeration from the poster, but he is never going to be a threat to even the sub-Nadal and Federer tier of clay courters like Ferrer, Nalbandian, Del Potro when fit etc. In short, he won't make it past the first week and maybe not even today, albeit he has been very unlucky to draw an in form Gasquet. Nobody actually said he was "poor". pantene made that up. The only comment above his suggesting anything about Murray's form on clay was mine and I've emboldened what I actually said. I said he "doesn't do well" on clay and that it was a "poor draw". Anyway, notwithstanding that I didn't actually say what pantene thinks I did, I'd contend that the Q-F last year was more out of sorts with Murray's regular clay court form than the recent results have been. Like you I'd be surprised if he made week two and indeed surprised if he made it through the next round even if he wins this one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 A lot of it looks like an attitude thing as well. I'm not watching today's game, but the last match against Ferrer he did OK for long spells, but just didn't have the mental strength to dig in and win enough of the Deuce games. I thought a couple of years ago that he'd go on to improve a lot on clay, but he hasn't really, and that's with Corretja in the camp. I'm not sure his heart is in the clay court season, which says a lot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 A lot of it looks like an attitude thing as well. I'm not watching today's game, but the last match against Ferrer he did OK for long spells, but just didn't have the mental strength to dig in and win enough of the Deuce games. I thought a couple of years ago that he'd go on to improve a lot on clay, but he hasn't really, and that's with Corretja in the camp. I'm not sure his heart is in the clay court season, which says a lot. I tend to agree. At the moment he looks like he's chucked it. Two sets down and he can;t get a first serve anywhere near in the court. This one is over. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 What's Andy moaning about? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 (edited) Gasquet look's like he's about to give up the ghost. Edited to add: No he doesn't! Edited to add: Oh yes he does! Edited May 24, 2010 by Loki 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arch Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Looks like Murray's going through. I think he'd have probably taken any sort of win from this game, so it's job done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Physical strength and stamina won in the end. 47% first serves in and still he wins. Feel sorry for Gasquet though, for two sets he was immense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Murray got lucky.....simple. Needs to sort it out if he wants to go deep into the tournemant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantene proV Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Nobody actually said he was "poor". pantene made that up. The only comment above his suggesting anything about Murray's form on clay was mine and I've emboldened what I actually said. I said he "doesn't do well" on clay and that it was a "poor draw". Yeah, apologies. I was thinking of your post when I mentioned poor but I see you didn't say that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden til i die Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 What time does his match resume today? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKee Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 What time does his match resume today? I think it's after Ivanovic's match. It was supposed to be at around 11.00, but the rain has fucked that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_J Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 Nae frickin tennis, am I suppose to do work or something? Surely thats not what they pay me for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 Murray drops the second set to Chela on a tie break 7-5. One set all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKee Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 Streaky performance. It was either playing excellently, or playing very, very poory. Should never have lost a set against Chela, he isn't a great player, with one of the worst serveice motions I've ever laid eyes on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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