NotThePars Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Turns out cabinet ministers, the Prime Minister and the media repeatedly accusing the opposition leader of being a Marxist terrorist lover hell bent on destroying Britain (I wish) doesn't produce healthy liberal behaviour. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 They will be “told off” by a junior officer who attended public school and who will be grinning throughout the proceedings. Yep, I know someone who made the front page of national press etc whilst in the army for another ‘embarrassing’ incident, the army protected them and the senior officer laughed at them whilst telling them off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 FCO minister Mark Field ruling out expelling Brunei from the Commonwealth. He just seemed to suggest that stoning homosexuals to death is mitigated by the high burden of proof required under Sharia law. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Some thick as shit Tory just said these laws not only victimise individuals but whole societies "Imagine how further forward computing could have been had we not sterilised Alan Turing" Field finishes off the debate by giving a birthday shout out. Now West Ham fans are bonding. They are obviously taking this seriously. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) A debate on EBTs now beginning with Ross Thompson kicking it off. Lots of people in Aberdeen are apparently unhappy that they have to pay tax. Edited April 4, 2019 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 I had to turn it off. Tory after Tory complaining about how being asked to pay the correct tax is destroying metal health and tearing apart families. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 In other matters that looks like a desperate result for Labour in the Newport West by-election; I wonder if Corbyn will ponder the implications for his desired GE. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 In other matters that looks like a desperate result for Labour in the Newport West by-election; I wonder if Corbyn will ponder the implications for his desired GE.I would go as far as to say that with a 37% turnout, a change from a popular MP of 32 years, and in a Leave area, you can read virtually nothing into that result - except that Labour still won. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Election incoming.The tories are now saying the hung parliament is the problem 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 lol if after everything Corbyn gets his election 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 3 hours ago, doulikefish said: Election incoming.The tories are now saying the hung parliament is the problem I'm not the most politically savvy - but would it not be incredibly difficult to get a consistent party position on Brexit in a manifesto from Labour and the Tories (particularly the latter given the party-within-a-party stuff involving the ERG) making an election a bit pointless? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 5, 2019 Author Share Posted April 5, 2019 28 minutes ago, Thistle_do_nicely said: I'm not the most politically savvy - but would it not be incredibly difficult to get a consistent party position on Brexit in a manifesto from Labour and the Tories (particularly the latter given the party-within-a-party stuff involving the ERG) making an election a bit pointless? In reality you’re correct; in theory not. The membership of the Labour Party is heavily Remain. The membership of the Conservative Party is heavily Leave. If the manifestos reflected the views of the majority of their members they would be very clear. Any candidate standing for either Party should have to give a commitment to support their party manifesto on Brexit. The problem is once an MP is elected their pre-election commitments are meaningless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: In reality you’re correct; in theory not. The membership of the Labour Party is heavily Remain. The membership of the Conservative Party is heavily Leave. If the manifestos reflected the views of the majority of their members they would be very clear. Any candidate standing for either Party should have to give a commitment to support their party manifesto on Brexit. The problem is once an MP is elected their pre-election commitments are meaningless. Cheers - hadn't thought of that with regard to the party membership, makes things even harder - if you're standing in a heavily leave or remain consituency I'd imagine the position you want the party to take on Brexit will be influenced as a result. edit: christ, or even one where it's marginal and if you pick the wrong side you're out on your arse! Edited April 5, 2019 by Thistle_do_nicely 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 If Labour commit to Remain they will lose their Leave voters and gain absolutely no one from the other parties. It's electoral suicide. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Detournement said: If Labour commit to Remain they will lose their Leave voters and gain absolutely no one from the other parties. This makes no sense whatsoever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, doulikefish said: Election incoming.The tories are now saying the hung parliament is the problem If the Tories had stuck to their 2017 Manifesto commitment they would have got rid of the Fixed Terms Act and would have been forced into a General Election in December or January latest when the central part of their legislation got massacred when the DUP and ERG refused to back it. Edited April 5, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 49 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said: This makes no sense whatsoever. Remain voting Tories aren't going to switch to Labour in big numbers if Labour back remain. These are people who are voting on the basis of their bottom line. Labour will lose more voters than they will gain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 33 minutes ago, welshbairn said: If the Tories had stuck to their 2017 Manifesto commitment they would have got rid of the Fixed Terms Act and would have been forced into a General Election in December or January latest when the central part of their legislation got massacred when the DUP and ERG refused to back it. When do you think she would have lost a confidence vote? I doubt a single Tory or DUP MP wants an election. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, Detournement said: Remain voting Tories aren't going to switch to Labour in big numbers if Labour back remain. And your evidence for this is? If Labour back Remain then remainers of all stripes will hold their noses and back them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said: And your evidence for this is? If Labour back Remain then remainers of all stripes will hold their noses and back them. And your evidence for this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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