welshbairn Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) She always seemed like a disorganised fool with money, rather than a determined fraudster. If it was intentional it was a really shite fraud if she thought she would get away with it. Not sure what the penalty would be for negligence rather than embezzlement. Edited December 19, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Expect a low key announcement that they won't be seeking a retrial between Christmas and New Year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Granny Danger said: “The judges made their ruling after hearing submissions, which cannot be reported for legal reasons, from defence advocate Gordon Jackson QC.” Bit of a step up from Upstairs, Downstairs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Some unionists doing the "Why was an ex-SNP MP let off?" line - they really are fucking scumbags. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Detournement said: Expect a low key announcement that they won't be seeking a retrial between Christmas and New Year. Would have thought that would be inevitable in any case. Justice works slowly at best, not sure about the cuts here but they're just about falling apart down south. Edited December 19, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 27 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Some unionists doing the "Why was an ex-SNP MP let off?" line - they really are fucking scumbags. It does look dodgy as f**k that she is going to get off on an undisclosed reason. The Scottish establishment look after each other regardless of party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 It does look dodgy as f**k that she is going to get off on an undisclosed reason. The Scottish establishment look after each other regardless of party.Maybe, just maybe, the reasons for quashing haven’t been made public as it is evidence to be presented in the future trial? Thick c**t. She hasn’t “got off”, there will be a future trial, as in her previous one, she suffered a miscarriage of justice. FWIW, I think she may or may not be guilty. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, Brother Blades said: Maybe, just maybe, the reasons for quashing haven’t been made public as it is evidence to be presented in the future trial? Thick c**t. She hasn’t “got off”, there will be a future trial, as in her previous one, she suffered a miscarriage of justice. FWIW, I think she may or may not be guilty. She is guilty as sin. There is a good chance the reason she got off will be her mental state due to the miscarriage leading to her changing her plea. I don't think there will be a future trial. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 26 minutes ago, Brother Blades said: Maybe, just maybe, the reasons for quashing haven’t been made public as it is evidence to be presented in the future trial? Thick c**t. She hasn’t “got off”, there will be a future trial, as in her previous one, she suffered a miscarriage of justice. FWIW, I think she may or may not be guilty. If it doesn’t go to a new trial, and I assume that’s possible depending upon the view of the Fiscal’s office, then I hope the reasons for this decision are made public. Otherwise it will look like a stitch up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 She is guilty as sin. There is a good chance the reason she got off will be her mental state due to the miscarriage leading to her changing her plea. I don't think there will be a future trial.Shut up, you’ve no inside knowledge.There will be a future trial, unless the PF decides that they have no case.I actually believe she is guilty of something, but whether it’s what her charges were or not is a different matter. That’s an opinion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Always knew she was innocent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 It does look dodgy as f**k that she is going to get off on an undisclosed reason. The Scottish establishment look after each other regardless of party.I was right - Unionists really are fucking scumbags. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 22 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: 1 hour ago, Detournement said: It does look dodgy as f**k that she is going to get off on an undisclosed reason. The Scottish establishment look after each other regardless of party. I was right - Unionists really are fucking scumbags. And Independence supporters who a prejudging this in her favour? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: And Independence supporters who a prejudging this in her favour? Don't think anyone is, just that it's normal for reasons for a retrial not to be disclosed so as not to prejudice a jury, and it's frankly laughable to suggest a fix is in because they're unlikely to schedule it for between Christmas and New Year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 The money went from the campaign groups account to her accounts and then she spent it. She obviously deserves a fair trial but there is no doubt she is guilty from all the available evidence. If she gets off it stinks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastermind Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I was right - Unionists really are fucking scumbags.Still seething over five years on. Pleasing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 And Independence supporters who a prejudging this in her favour?It's the unsubtle hints at a corrupt decision that get on my tits.Anyone who know how's the judiciary works in Scotland knows that they are rarely influenced by government - no matter who's in power. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Still seething over five years on. Pleasing.I didn't vote Yes 5 years ago you fucking moron. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: It's the unsubtle hints at a corrupt decision that get on my tits. Anyone who know how's the judiciary works in Scotland knows that they are rarely influenced by government - no matter who's in power. I don’t think there’s anything corrupt about it but prima facie it looks like she did something wrong and if, for any reason, there is not a retrial it would be best if the undisclosed information was disclosed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 [emoji23]. This thread. Imagine if mcgarry was a Tory. Then re-read the above posters comments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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