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Rashford clearly has something,  goal every 172 minutes in the EPL is outrageous considering he played over 10 games, in a notoriously uncreative side and he's only turned 18 this season.

 

For reference Rooney was at a goal every 265 minutes at the same age.

 

The boy doesn't even need 5 chances to score a goal, he is very clinical. His celebration summed him up, cool as ice. Imagine if you scored 2 minutes into your Scotland debut? I'd be doing laps around the pitch till I keeled over.

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How long has Roy been in charge now, 4 years?

 

England have not moved forward at all, if anything he is taking them backwards. The most uninspiring manager I can think of.

 

They absolutely pasted us, which I admit isn't a great gauge but nonetheless I'm not sure it would have been true of previous, higher profile, England squads.  

 

I think Hodgson's done as good a job as can be expected for a team with that defence.  If they can avoid getting knocked out in the group stage, and perhaps fluke it through the quarters, he'll have done a very, very good job.  Whether than will satisfy the more reactionary of the red tops, I do not know.

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Messi's also 8/9 years older than them though.

 

I thought we were mentioning foreign players who were better tbh.

 

You can argue in Rashfords defence he has been playing in a team who have been scoring less with no real decent support compared to Iheanacho. 

 

Rashford 8 goals in 18 games ( 5 in 11 PL games) for Man Utd

Iheanacho 14 goals in 35 games (8 in 26 PL games) for Man City

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They absolutely pasted us, which I admit isn't a great gauge but nonetheless I'm not sure it would have been true of previous, higher profile, England squads.  

 

I think Hodgson's done as good a job as can be expected for a team with that defence.  If they can avoid getting knocked out in the group stage, and perhaps fluke it through the quarters, he'll have done a very, very good job.  Whether than will satisfy the more reactionary of the red tops, I do not know.

 

They did paste us. I think it was partly down to the Ireland game a few days previous was a proper battle, mentally and physically. We didn't seem up for the England game at all, where as they surprisingly were. I think we were knackered.

 

Would John Terry have improved that defence in the last few years, regardless of the politics? 

 

He seems to be trying to get them to play this possession style of football that is fancy on the eye but it just makes them look slow and pedestrian. It will be the same old story, look good in qualifying pumping everyone then come up against decent teams look years off the pace, rip up the 'blueprint' and start all over again. The difference between Spain, Germany, France, Italy compared to England is they are the trend setters, England spend years trying to implement other countries styles and by the time they think they have cracked it everyone else has moved on and they are left struggling to catch the big nations again.

 

Is that Roy's fault? No but he doesn't seem gallus enough to at least have a go. Remember the build up to the World Cup was all about this new attacking looking England blah blah....out after 2 games. Is he the best English candidate? Probably although it would have been interesting to see how Redknapp got on. They have to go down the foreign route again but like us, they have flashbacks to previous failures like Cappelo and Sven and shit themselves.

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Sure I seen something earlier that said Rashford has only had 15 shots on goal since his debut & from that he has 9 goals.

That's not bad btw.

 

His conversion rate in the EPL is 89%, which is fucking obscene.

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He seems to be trying to get them to play this possession style of football that is fancy on the eye but it just makes them look slow and pedestrian. It will be the same old story, look good in qualifying pumping everyone then come up against decent teams look years off the pace, rip up the 'blueprint' and start all over again. The difference between Spain, Germany, France, Italy compared to England is they are the trend setters, England spend years trying to implement other countries styles and by the time they think they have cracked it everyone else has moved on and they are left struggling to catch the big nations again.

 

Is that Roy's fault? No but he doesn't seem gallus enough to at least have a go. Remember the build up to the World Cup was all about this new attacking looking England blah blah....out after 2 games. Is he the best English candidate? Probably although it would have been interesting to see how Redknapp got on. They have to go down the foreign route again but like us, they have flashbacks to previous failures like Cappelo and Sven and shit themselves.

 

I'd say it's that they spend two years trying to implement a system that will take a decade to properly bed in, then shit the bed when it doesn't give them results.  Germany hit rock bottom in 2004 when they went out of the Euros at the Group Stage.  They then put into place a plan that led to them winning the World Cup 10 years later.  Would there have been certain elements in the German media and fans that would have hated their fallow periods in between?  Of course.  But the German FA had their plan and they stuck to it.  The English FA don't seem to have the balls to really go for it, and cave into pressure the moment they have a "poor" tournament.  It's probably good for us, because I think if the FA really screwed the nut on and decided to get serious about really revamping the national team, then they could really compete. 

 

I'm of the opinion that Hodgson was the best English manager for the job.  He's clearly a very good manager, and is perfectly suited for International football (unlike other failures).  But his case is also helped by how poor the English pool is.  Redknapp was up for it (I can't decide whether he would have been amazing or a disaster, probably both) but nowadays, who's the next in line?  Pardew probably, which is hilarious.  And like you say, "going foreign" is likely to give them the fear.

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