Mortar Bored Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Thread title gives my own view on what I think is my biggest political mistake. No doubt, the Tories needed to be ejected from power, as was done by Blair in 97, I celebrated the fact that we no longer had a Big C government, despite voting for SNP in that election, I did think Labour would bring a sea-change in social justice, and celebrated an overturn of Tory rule. Looking back, Blair is widely accepted as being a Tom McB and a self serving w**k. Not to mention a multi-millionaire. Not saying Tory rule would be better, but I'm gutted I celebrated a return to "false" socialism. What's your Major Mistake politically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I voted Lib Dem in Wales in the election when they joined the Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortar Bored Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 I voted Lib Dem in Wales in the election when they joined the Tories. I expected some revelations- but nothing as bad as this- I'll close the thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Your biggest mistake was obviously voting SNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I expected some revelations- but nothing as bad as this- I'll close the thread! I'm sorry, couldn't vote for Labour after Iraq, Tories obvious, not that keen on Plaid Cymru's connections with Italian fascists but I gather that's done with now, but who else? Green Party when I was in favour of a sensible approach of testing the safety of GMC before writing them off, or some Christian nutter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Thread title gives my own view on what I think is my biggest political mistake. No doubt, the Tories needed to be ejected from power, as was done by Blair in 97, I celebrated the fact that we no longer had a Big C government, despite voting for SNP in that election, I did think Labour would bring a sea-change in social justice, and celebrated an overturn of Tory rule. Looking back, Blair is widely accepted as being a Tom McB and a self serving w**k. Not to mention a multi-millionaire. Not saying Tory rule would be better, but I'm gutted I celebrated a return to "false" socialism. What's your Major Mistake politically? This. I remember thinking "thank f**k for that". That was the high point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I voted Lib Dem in Wales in the election when they joined the Tories. WB - take some sort of blunt instrument and hammer yourself in the baws. Completely unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I voted Labour because I was promised sweeties if I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I voted Labour because I was promised sweeties if I did.She was teasing you mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Labour's first term was actually pretty progressive - it was when they were re-elected that things started to go to pot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Labour's first term was actually pretty progressive - it was when they were re-elected that things started to go to pot Correct. Lots of really big progressive changes that are now taken for granted came in the first term of the Labour Government in 1997. Things like tax credits, the minimum wage, Good Friday, Devolution, the Human Rights Act, the Freedom of Information Act, equalisation of consent laws, the Winter Fuel Payment, switching domestic energy to lower rate VAT, SureStart, some significant employment rights improvements. Kosovo. Sierra Leone. And even into his second term you had the introduction of civil partnerships and legislation to recognise gender reassignment. Domestically, and despite their pretty terrible record on civil liberties when they interact with crime and terrorism, it's pretty inarguable that Tony Blair's government was a massive success for the centre-left in terms of policy implementation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Thread title gives my own view on what I think is my biggest political mistake. No doubt, the Tories needed to be ejected from power, as was done by Blair in 97, I celebrated the fact that we no longer had a Big C government, despite voting for SNP in that election, I did think Labour would bring a sea-change in social justice, and celebrated an overturn of Tory rule. Looking back, Blair is widely accepted as being a Tom McB and a self serving w**k. Not to mention a multi-millionaire. Not saying Tory rule would be better, but I'm gutted I celebrated a return to "false" socialism. What's your Major Mistake politically? What a ridiculously disrespectful thing to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Correct. Lots of really big progressive changes that are now taken for granted came in the first term of the Labour Government in 1997. Things like tax credits, the minimum wage, Good Friday, Devolution, the Human Rights Act, the Freedom of Information Act, equalisation of consent laws, the Winter Fuel Payment, switching domestic energy to lower rate VAT, SureStart, some significant employment rights improvements. Kosovo. Sierra Leone. And even into his second term you had the introduction of civil partnerships and legislation to recognise gender reassignment. Domestically, and despite their pretty terrible record on civil liberties when they interact with crime and terrorism, it's pretty inarguable that Tony Blair's government was a massive success for the centre-left in terms of policy implementation. What about ppp / pfi shambles? When was that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 What about ppp / pfi shambles? When was that? Second term was the major push. 2003 - London Underground's stock and infrastructure were done via PFI. 2005/06 - PFI started to be used for rebuilding schools. 2009 - PFI only route considered for many hospital rebuilds. In 2012 the Guardian published a list of all contracts by department: http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/jul/05/pfi-contracts-list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Your biggest mistake was obviously voting SNP. Ooft. Zinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 My mother voted for Thatcher in '79. I think she was won over by a combination of Labour being shite and the revolutionary idea of having a female PM. She let it slip to a family member at some point, and they never let her forget it. It seems that she didn't have the best of judgement before that though, as she still swears that Jeremy Thorpe would have been a great PM. I haven't had cause to regret my votes yet, but I suppose it's inevitable. Closest I've come was a similar situation to Welshbairn's example when I was first eligible; I just didn't vote that time, although I'd spoil my ballot now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I was brought up to despise the tories and voted labour until I realised they were just new tories. I'm not voting in this election, will probably regret it but I feel great apathy towards the Scottish Parliament after the no vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rational Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 None. Although if I had stayed in New Zealand, I would have liked to have voted National, just to see what it's like to feel dirty when I voted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I've voted for the SNP since day one but it was the 1992 GE where any faith I had in anything UK related was finally removed. Every man and his dug said that the Tories were finished and Labour would win. Guess what, the Conservatives won the election, gaining in excess of 14 million votes, the highest popular vote ever recorded by a British political party in a general election to date (wikipedia). As all the papers had predicted a Labour win or at the least, a coalition, I vowed never to buy a newspaper again. And I've stuck to that vow. Edit: My biggest political mistake was to believe all the newspaper polls in the 1992 GE - never again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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