Hammer Jag Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/illegal-tours-in-chernobyl-876 Some food for thought re. Chernobyl. I really fancy a weekend in Kiev, so I'll be keeping a keen eye on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadgerTheBadger Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 After 3 years of pestering my gf has said we can go for a city break to Kiev. The sole reason is to go for a tour around Chernobyl, Has anyone been? What's it like? If your on the TAMB give 'Wanderer' a message. Anything to do with travelling around Eastern Europe then he's yer man. I'm sure he must've stayed in Ukraine at some point as he has lots of contacts over there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadgerTheBadger Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 His wife is Ukrainian if I remember right but like a lot of people from the old USSR, her family was moved about. ðBy choice or by the authorities? If it was the authorities why?I've been on one of his day tours on a Scotland trip last year to Georgia and it was excellent. A whole day visiting away, you get well fed and it was great value for money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-r-cfc Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 A lot of Russians were relocated to the neighbouring 'Soviet republics' over the years. It's why so much tension still exists in places like Estonia and Latvia which have high Russian populations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I don't get the attraction of visiting a wrecked power station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongue_tied_danny Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 A lot of Russians were relocated to the neighbouring 'Soviet republics' over the years. It's why so much tension still exists in places like Estonia and Latvia which have high Russian populations That's true, I have a friend who born and raised in Riga but considers herself Russian and doesn't recognize Latvia as her country of birth. The strange thing is that she was born after Latvian independence and has never actually been to Russia itself, but still has fervent patriotism for a country she has never been to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadgerTheBadger Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 That's true, I have a friend who born and raised in Riga but considers herself Russian and doesn't recognize Latvia as her country of birth. The strange thing is that she was born after Latvian independence and has never actually been to Russia itself, but still has fervent patriotism for a country she has never been to. I'm British but don't recognise myself as such, I'm Scottish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-r-cfc Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 That's true, I have a friend who born and raised in Riga but considers herself Russian and doesn't recognize Latvia as her country of birth. The strange thing is that she was born after Latvian independence and has never actually been to Russia itself, but still has fervent patriotism for a country she has never been to. It's been a big issue in the baltics in particular. Estonia actively denied citizenship to anyone who couldn't trace their roots back to the pre-soviet state. It's been relaxed since then (bit of pressure from the EU helped) but there was still riots in Tallinn a few years back when the authorities tried to move a Soviet war memorial. Shows how live the issue still is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 It's been a big issue in the baltics in particular. Estonia actively denied citizenship to anyone who couldn't trace their roots back to the pre-soviet state. It's been relaxed since then (bit of pressure from the EU helped) but there was still riots in Tallinn a few years back when the authorities tried to move a Soviet war memorial. Shows how live the issue still is Did they not make being fluent in Estonian a condition of getting any public sector jobs? Likewise in Lithuania and Latvia? Which basically ruled most ethnic Russians out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-r-cfc Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Did they not make being fluent in Estonian a condition of getting any public sector jobs? Likewise in Lithuania and Latvia? Which basically ruled most ethnic Russians out. I get the three mixed up but think Estonia was the most hardline with Lithuania the least. Latvia in between the two Think a lot of public sector jobs required citizenship which required a (pretty tough) language test so yeah Russians were basically excluded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Kyiv is quality plenty of stuff to visit and the beer is cheap and the women are stunning. Stayed at Hotel Ukraine which overlooked the maidan square which had beer tents during the day. Was dirt cheap when I was there apart from the hotel bar which became a pole dancing bar at night Cheeky mares tried to get you buying the brandy and ferreo rocher The group funds took a kicking there on a couple of occasions. Had a look round the Olympic Stadium and Kyiv's ground but could no see much but saw the monument to the war time team who plated against the Nazi's. If you like military history Madra Mat - mother of the nation is worth a visit. Visited Odessa too but Kyiv was immense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Pripyat Stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-r-cfc Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Ooohh, never seen the stadium before. It's cool, but not quite Cathkin Park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 It's been a big issue in the baltics in particular. Estonia actively denied citizenship to anyone who couldn't trace their roots back to the pre-soviet state. Georgia did the same. A bad idea which cost them Abkhazia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melany Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Crimea is great! Nature there is very beautiful and the sea is much more clean then in Turkey for example. about Kiev I have been, quite nice, Lavra I liked a lot, and some old streets worth seeing also about Chernobil, as for me only crazy people go there, it can be still dangerous, an empty city, like in horror movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 That's true, I have a friend who born and raised in Riga but considers herself Russian and doesn't recognize Latvia as her country of birth. The strange thing is that she was born after Latvian independence and has never actually been to Russia itself, but still has fervent patriotism for a country she has never been to. My Pals ex would say she was Russian to everyone but he was helping with her passport application and noticed on her certificate the place of birth was Kyrgyzstan. She wouldn't even recognise the country and said her mother always called it Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 My Pals ex would say she was Russian to everyone but he was helping with her passport application and noticed on her certificate the place of birth was Kyrgyzstan. She wouldn't even recognise the country and said her mother always called it Russia. My mate lives in Toronto with his Russian girlfriend. Actually born in the newly formed Belarus, before moving to Toronto when she was 4. She maintains she's Russian, as do all her family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadgerTheBadger Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 After 3 years of pestering my gf has said we can go for a city break to Kiev. The sole reason is to go for a tour around Chernobyl, Has anyone been? What's it like? Just wondering how you got on with you're trip I'm looking at heading over in October if I can price it up reasonablyAlso if anyone who has been can say how safe it is to go to Chernobyl aswell as if it's safe enough with the whole Russian carry on? Last time I was there 3 people died a couple of days before I arrived in riots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Was in Chernobyl a few years back, had a blast. taxi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadgerTheBadger Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Was in Chernobyl a few years back, had a blast. taxi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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