Cloontang Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 TBF John Boyle was/is a bit a fud, but some former players have told some tales about Gannon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: He couldn’t juggle soot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: BigBullShit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Cloontang said: TBF John Boyle was/is a bit a fud, but some former players have told some tales about Gannon. I work with a guy who is a Port Vale fan who was telling me a number of their players at the time also have said he was a crackpot. To the point where it ended up in a scrap on the team bus with Gannon getting papped off it https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/horsfield-gannon-port-vale-bus-3533637 See if a manager has a falling out with the players & staff at one club, that's kind of understandable. Sometimes these things happen. When it's happened at just about every club they've turned up at it would suggest there's a common denominator. Edited February 19 by well fan for life 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 8 minutes ago, well fan for life said: See if a manager has a falling out with the players & staff at one club, that's kind of understandable. Sometimes these things happen. When it's happened at just about every club they've turned up at it would suggest there's a common denominator. Yes, the footballers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayWell Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 "I lost confidence in the football club" may as well translate as "started doing mental shit to get myself mutualled and back down the road" Gannon has a well earned reputation for being batshit crazy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazylegsjoe_mfc Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Who knows, in another era, him and Sutton could've bonded over the COVID vaccine and created a relationship between him and the senior players. To hand it to him, his recruitment was phenonmenal with us. Jutkiewicz, Ruddy, Hateley, Coke, Humphrey and Jennings were all good signings. Then there was Moutaouakil, but I'll give him that one based on him being the former France under 21 captain who had lots of big teams after him a few years previously. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) On 18/02/2024 at 08:08, Swello said: I don't know if there is such a thing as specialist defensive coaching in Scottish fitba - but I think we need to invent it if not as we can't continue the way things are and the current coaching team simply aren't fixing anything. Listened to a set play consultant last week. He said the coaches told him they lack the time with the players during the season and don't want to confuse their players. Therefore, they prefer to do Plan-A better rather than change it all up. He was speaking about defensive set plays. The consensus being it's more beneficial to work on attacking plays as you have more control over them. The logic being that even if an opponent has played the ball to the back post every time in their previous 100 corners, they might play it to the front post against them. Attacking plays are different as you have the ball and therefore the control. So defensive tactics are on a to do list, just not high up it and tend to only change when the coaching staff change or during a pre-season or if a team is conceding a lot of goals. I don't know how that might translate to open play - but I thought it was fascinating and understandable. Edited February 19 by 2426255 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosser1886 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, ropy said: He couldn’t juggle soot Think he snorted soot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I thought it was soup he was snorting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Did I just imagine that we got Oli Shaw back? He's not been seen yet has he? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 5 minutes ago, Swello said: Did I just imagine that we got Oli Shaw back? He's not been seen yet has he? He's injured. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 The reason we sent him back but we've panicked into allowing Barnsley to trick their and our FA into thinking we agreed it just before the deadline... About a week after it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Jim Gannon refused to do interviews with Sky until they fixed his Sky box. The guy would fight his own shadow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, Busta Nut said: The reason we sent him back but we've panicked into allowing Barnsley to trick their and our FA into thinking we agreed it just before the deadline... About a week after it. In fairness, I don't disagree that we've been panicked into bringing him back but in terms of timeline it depends on how long it took the English FA to process Barnsley's appeal. The English FA are generally quite strict with that sort of thing so I'd be surprised if Barnsley actually Jedi mind-tricked them into Shaw coming back. Bear in mind they basically told Blackburn to f**k off after there was an "administrative error" in their submission for Duncan McGuire's loan: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/feb/06/mcguire-transfer-collapsed-after-blackburn-pressed-wrong-button-on-website We announce Shaw was back on 8th February (2 days after that Blackburn appeal) so I guess there's a chance that we've legitimately agreed the deal prior to the close of deadline then sorted out the paperwork - similar to Butcher last season who was announced on 4th February - with the window having closed on 31st January. Anyway, vaguely related to our Oli Shaw mercy dash I just noticed this on a thread on FPC (it's been a while). It's possible it got lost in all the noise around chucking a 3-0 lead but it seems we had a late bid for Aidan Keena binned on deadline day. Either way it seems as if Shaw coming back was the most last resort thing going. Edited February 19 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I'm sure it was all legit. I wonder when we will see him again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome_Devil Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, capt_oats said: Anyway, vaguely related to our Oli Shaw mercy dash I just noticed this on a thread on FPC (it's been a while). It's possible it got lost in all the noise around chucking a 3-0 lead but it seems we had a late bid for Aidan Keena binned on deadline day. Either way it seems as if Shaw coming back was the most last resort thing going. Off the top of my head, the media linked us with, in no particular order, Van Veen, Brophy, Nouble, Keena, Ozbolt, May, Stewart, Main, an unknown Scandinavian and the Sunderland lad who went to Hibs. I've probably forgotten some and there's probably others that didn't leak. I'm not sure what it means but it's such a remarkable number, it must mean something... We obviously don't know how serious we were about all these, maybe some were total nonsense, but you really wonder if we've just lost touch with what deadline day strikers cost, if we deserve credit for not overpaying or criticism for not being decisive and stumping up early on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 24 minutes ago, Handsome_Devil said: Off the top of my head, the media linked us with, in no particular order, Van Veen, Brophy, Nouble, Keena, Ozbolt, May, Stewart, Main, an unknown Scandinavian and the Sunderland lad who went to Hibs. I've probably forgotten some and there's probably others that didn't leak. I'm not sure what it means but it's such a remarkable number, it must mean something... We obviously don't know how serious we were about all these, maybe some were total nonsense, but you really wonder if we've just lost touch with what deadline day strikers cost, if we deserve credit for not overpaying or criticism for not being decisive and stumping up early on. I think this is probably the reality for most clubs regardless of how much money they have - everyone will miss out on targets as peer clubs are all looking at the same data, listening to the same shite from agents and are all after the same players (probably more so in January as the pool is shallower). Our situation felt like we were competing for some players that we we were very likely to be outbid on - but taking a punt is also part of the January window. As I said at the time - we actually had a reasonably good window outside of trying to get a Biereth replacement (and I'd imagine a number 9 is the most expensive/competitive market to be part of in January) - so it's not some kind of hopeless situation. If Biereth had come back as planned, I reckon we'd all be happy enough now that the dust has settled. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillips455 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Well, I hope the fact we have a week to actually prepare for a game will help us. I doubt we will win but surely we can sneak a draw? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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