Motherwell FC - A Thread For All Seasons

[JamesP_81]

There's absolutely no chance we're starting next season with KVV is there ?

My head is telling me that we're in a mutually beneficial situation where he's hit a great run of form with more than a year left on his contract so can still command a fee for him and we have given him a chance for a last big payday in his career while enjoying his performances till the end of the season .

My heart tho is gutted that this great run of form isn't pushing us on to a European tour or going to be ending with a day out at Hampden. Would happily chuck away any transfer fee we could get this year for the big man to hang around for a crack at a cup next year.  

[capt_oats]

So...

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"The Steelmen have been on the hunt for a new chief executive since Well head honcho Burrows announced he was stepping down to take over a similar role at Aberdeen. The Lanarkshire outfit held talks with former FA director of communications Adrian Bevington before discussions broke down. Former Motherwell communications chief Grant Russell, now at English Premier League outfit West Ham United, was also on the Motherwell short list of potential candidates before McGhee got the nod.

Ex-Shelbourne director Ross Dunbar and Patrick Thistle director Gerry Britton were among those interviewed by the Well board before they decided to hire McGhee, a namesake of their former manager."

[Dagdagh]

A K D Lang Tribute Act as Chief Exec?

No-one saw that coming.

[Kapowzer]

1 minute ago, Dagdagh said:

A K D Lang Tribute Act as Chief Exec?

No-one saw that coming.

KD will be replacing Las within a couple of years .... everyone see's that coming

[Dagdagh]

1 minute ago, Kapowzer said:

KD will be replacing Las within a couple of years .... everyone see's that coming

Still hurting.  Come on big guy let it out.  We're here for you.

[Kapowzer]

7 minutes ago, Dagdagh said:

Still hurting.  Come on big guy let it out.  We're here for you.

Far from it, the only one of our cast off's I'd still have is O'Hara as we've found out decent players being used poorly clouds many a judgement. I was one sad to see him go, but could understand it.

I'd have taken Dunne in January when we were relying on Sol and Lamie but on a two week loan.

Las improved our "hot daddy" co-efficient.

But you lot keep on sniffing round after we've done all the donkey work and continue to buy our donkey's.

[Busta Nut]

I'd love Las to be our CEO and I'd take Trevor Carson nae bother. 

[KirkySuperSub]

3 minutes ago, Busta Nut said:

I'd love Las to be our CEO and I'd take Trevor Carson nae bother. 

I think you'd even have Frank Carson over Liam Kelly!

[Busta Nut]

10 minutes ago, KirkySuperSub said:

I think you'd even have Frank Carson over Liam Kelly!

That aside. Carson is better anyway

[Handsome_Devil]

55 minutes ago, JamesP_81 said:

There's absolutely no chance we're starting next season with KVV is there ?

I wouldn't go that far.

It's unlikely, of course. But...

He's in his 30s already.

One career season in Scotland will be balanced by several solid-at-best at a low level in England.

Scouts will be aware he was solid-to-good until mid-February and it's only a particular set of circumstances which has removed the budget from the Bergkamp.

Would someone throw us a few hundred k at us for a punt? Possibly. Maybe even probably.

But I just don't see anyone looking beyond his recent record and still thinking 'yep, he's definitely the final piece of the puzzle'. How many teams considering him will play two up top? If not how effective would he be there? 

And while it won't cancel out a huge stack of cash and bucket of french porn offered by China, i also wonder if we/SK could make him an offer which he'd be tempted by - he clearly has an ego the size of fir park, being told here's a fat new contract and we'll play 3-5-2 next season Kevin just to accommodate you because you're the man may make him think.

 

[Swello]

13 minutes ago, Handsome_Devil said:

And while it won't cancel out a huge stack of cash and bucket of french porn offered by China, i also wonder if we/SK could make him an offer which he'd be tempted by - he clearly has an ego the size of fir park, being told here's a fat new contract and we'll play 3-5-2 next season Kevin just to accommodate you because you're the man may make him think.

Footballers tend to think about cash over everything - and their agents definitely do.  Bottom line is that if someone in China offers big wages and the club get a good fee, it will be the shortest decision making process ever. He'll be offski.

[JamesP_81]

35 minutes ago, Handsome_Devil said:

I wouldn't go that far.

It's unlikely, of course. But...

He's in his 30s already.

One career season in Scotland will be balanced by several solid-at-best at a low level in England.

Scouts will be aware he was solid-to-good until mid-February and it's only a particular set of circumstances which has removed the budget from the Bergkamp.

Would someone throw us a few hundred k at us for a punt? Possibly. Maybe even probably.

But I just don't see anyone looking beyond his recent record and still thinking 'yep, he's definitely the final piece of the puzzle'. How many teams considering him will play two up top? If not how effective would he be there? 

And while it won't cancel out a huge stack of cash and bucket of french porn offered by China, i also wonder if we/SK could make him an offer which he'd be tempted by - he clearly has an ego the size of fir park, being told here's a fat new contract and we'll play 3-5-2 next season Kevin just to accommodate you because you're the man may make him think.

 

I really hope you're right! 

I think his age could be a big factor here , if he was 28 then forget it but I can only hold onto the slim slim hope that at 32(?) he's thinking he could be able to settle for a few years at a club that he's well loved at and is gallus enough to think that he's capable of getting some silverware and becoming a club legend rather than a cult hero. 

On the other hand he's a mad b*stard and it wouldn't surprise me if he left for Kazakhstan in the summer for a tenner a month more. 

[Kapowzer]

If we hadn't made a dumpster fire of the European and Raith games then we'd be almost a million better off and in a much better position to play hardball. As it turns out his transfer could make the difference between this season going down in the books as a red one or in the black which I think our board will favour to extend their prudence credentials.

On a side note but kinda related, I've wondered and discussed with a friend recently if Hibs hadn't punted McGinn if Max Johnson would have stayed in the building as understdy/cover/supercede SOD or as a wingback if SOD was pushed into the right centre half position of a back 5 (where McGinn now resides). Certainly we would have been in a good/better position in October to discuss an extension. It's all sliding doors stuff and Hammy wouldn't have gone away from a back 4 even with a gun at his head, but Motherwell could have a potential 7 figure asset on our books rather than going for the standard £300-400k development fee. Lot's of ifs and buts granted.

[Handsome_Devil]

12 minutes ago, Swello said:

Footballers tend to think about cash over everything - and their agents definitely do.  Bottom line is that if someone in China offers big wages and the club get a good fee, it will be the shortest decision making process ever. He'll be offski.

Sure...but china clamped down on signing foreigners a while ago, afaik they have a large tax on them. For it to be a no brainer net offer for us and KVV his suitor will have to be willing to spend an almighty amount gross on 30+ striker with no sell on value. Not impossible but I don't think it's quite the guarantee it would have been a decade ago.

[Handsome_Devil]

4 minutes ago, Kapowzer said:

On a side note but kinda related, I've wondered and discussed with a friend recently if Hibs hadn't punted McGinn if Max Johnson would have stayed in the building as understdy/cover/supercede SOD or as a wingback if SOD was pushed into the right centre half position of a back 5 (where McGinn now resides). Certainly we would have been in a good/better position in October to discuss an extension. It's all sliding doors stuff and Hammy wouldn't have gone away from a back 4 even with a gun at his head, but Motherwell could have a potential 7 figure asset on our books rather than going for the standard £300-400k development fee. Lot's of ifs and buts granted.

Mcginn had a contract, triggered by whatever from the season before, that Hibs had to stick to - they could only punt him because we stepped in.

But aye, who knows regarding MJ. It's also possible that without another six months regularly playing at a lower level he'd have looked so dodgy we didn't risk him much and sent him out on loan in January instead.

[Archie McSquackle]

1 hour ago, Dagdagh said:

A K D Lang Tribute Act as Chief Exec?

No-one saw that coming.

I was thinking a bit more Marc Almond!

https://images.app.goo.gl/TfwFBRvbni2Xznty8

[Gianfranco]

I’m all here for the KVV 30 goals campaign btw. 

[Kapowzer]

1 hour ago, Handsome_Devil said:

Mcginn had a contract, triggered by whatever from the season before, that Hibs had to stick to - they could only punt him because we stepped in.

Not entirely what happened, he was mutual-ed but only after Johnson told him he didn't like the cut of his jib. As a solid SPFL defender he would have ended up at any of 4/5 teams. It also helped Alexander put SOD on the 'untrustworthy' list for SOD telling him his tactics were horseshit and he wasn't going to act as the salesman. McGinn was allowed to find another gig otherwise he could have potentially bled them for a years wage. So he was essentially punted before we were ever in the picture.

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New Motherwell recruit Paul McGinn insists there’s no point being bitter over his shock Hibs exit.

The versatile defender looked set for another year at Easter Road after Leith chiefs took up an option to extend his contract. But that decision was quickly reversed by new boss Lee Johnson, who warned the 31-year-old he’d be looking at a bit-part role if he stayed in Edinburgh.

McGinn, though, insists he’s not one to hold grudges and is now looking forward to a fresh start at Fir Park having been offered a 12-month deal by Well gaffer Graham Alexander. The Scotland cap told Record Sport : “The new manager at Hibs came in. We had a chat and he said I was a good player but I’d be starting down the pecking order. That’s his decision but at my age I don’t want to be having to fight my way into a team, I want to be playing all the time.

 

[Handsome_Devil]

8 hours ago, Kapowzer said:

Not entirely what happened, he was mutual-ed but only after Johnson told him he didn't like the cut of his jib. As a solid SPFL defender he would have ended up at any of 4/5 teams. It also helped Alexander put SOD on the 'untrustworthy' list for SOD telling him his tactics were horseshit and he wasn't going to act as the salesman. McGinn was allowed to find another gig otherwise he could have potentially bled them for a years wage. So he was essentially punted before we were ever in the picture.

 

Ah, I thought he only agreed to walk from Hibs when he had us in the bag...fair do's.

Talking of people walking, Casey is in the paper from Saturday with the standard 'would like to stay but one game at a time' patter. Would hope we're making a serious effort there already.

[gullane]

Only downer from Saturday was watching Butcher hobble down the tunnel at the end of the game. He could barely walk. Hope it's nothing more than a bad knock.