edinabear Posted June 28, 2016 Author Share Posted June 28, 2016 Could the South of Scotland not be quite easily included within the existing West Junior structure?. Not that far between say Auchinleck and Kirkcudbright for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Its not how high they are in the system, its them being in it at all. The purpose, approach and targets of youth/reserve teams are entirely different to first teams, having them both within the same system is not acceptable. Why? The Dutch, Portuguese and a few others (Croatia immediately comes to mind) have B teams competing as high as their second tiers. It's quite normal to have this happen in a pyramid system, which is what many of you on here have always claimed to support. If it helps the development of players at fully pro level club, then it helps the national team and that should be the prime concern of the SFA in all of this. If SPFL3, SPFL4 and HL/LL clubs are going to get into the League Cup and get all kinds of handouts from the SPFL and SFA, it's not unreasonable to expect them to put up with colt teams in exchange for the greater good of Scottish football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Could the South of Scotland not be quite easily included within the existing West Junior structure?. Not that far between say Auchinleck and Kirkcudbright for example. Once you get beyond the licensed clubs, most of them wouldn't meet the ground requirements and would be a better fit for the SAFA than the SJFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 If it helps the development of players at fully pro level club, then it helps the national team and that should be the prime concern of the SFA in all of this. If SPFL3, SPFL4 and HL/LL clubs are going to get into the League Cup and get all kinds of handouts from the SPFL and SFA, it's not unreasonable to expect them to put up with colt teams in exchange for the greater good of Scottish football. NO! The sfa is an association of clubs. It is to serve them. The pyramid is to create the strongest and fairest league system for the clubs. It is them that are the lifeblood of our game, not some exhibition team. The deal from the spfl clubs to the HL/LL is that the spfl gets a more even distribution of clubs and a more exciting cup competition, in exchange the hl/LL clubs get some prize money. It's a fair deal as it stands. Besides their is absolutely no greater good to have some teams operating under different rules to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 NO! The sfa is an association of clubs. It is to serve them. The pyramid is to create the strongest and fairest league system for the clubs. It is them that are the lifeblood of our game, not some exhibition team. The deal from the spfl clubs to the HL/LL is that the spfl gets a more even distribution of clubs and a more exciting cup competition, in exchange the hl/LL clubs get some prize money. It's a fair deal as it stands. Besides their is absolutely no greater good to have some teams operating under different rules to others. This. B/Colts/Under20 teams at any level of the pyramid is fucking joke! The integrity of the game depends on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Get B teams to f**k!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 There seems to be good fan support for a new West of Scotland Senior League to underpin the Pyramid. So here are my suggestions for membership : Glasgow University Third Lanark Clydebank (New Ground) FC Oban & District FC Edusport Academy (from SoSL) Queens Park Spiders Strathclyde University Cowlairs (1896) Glasgow Islands Amateurs (Vale of) Girvan United Glasgow Corporation Parks Department Ayrshire Soccer Academy EU Activists (Strathclyde) FC 13 clubs for starters ! Surely west of Scotland Junior Clubs would be rushing to join the WoS (Seniors) League as it would present a rapid rise to the Lowland League. Can you name any other interested clubs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinabear Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 I still dont know if this post is dripping with sarcasm but you would certainly expect Glasgow uni, Strathclyde uni, Clydebank and possibly third lanark to be involved in a 6 tier west feeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
info Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 4 hours ago, Robert James said: There seems to be good fan support for a new West of Scotland Senior League to underpin the Pyramid. So here are my suggestions for membership : Glasgow University Third Lanark Clydebank (New Ground) FC Oban & District FC Edusport Academy (from SoSL) Queens Park Spiders Strathclyde University Cowlairs (1896) Glasgow Islands Amateurs (Vale of) Girvan United Glasgow Corporation Parks Department Ayrshire Soccer Academy EU Activists (Strathclyde) FC 13 clubs for starters ! Surely west of Scotland Junior Clubs would be rushing to join the WoS (Seniors) League as it would present a rapid rise to the Lowland League. Can you name any other interested clubs ? Could I suggest Newton Mearns WRI and Largs Troop Girl Guides.Why not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 7 hours ago, Robert James said: There seems to be good fan support for a new West of Scotland Senior League to underpin the Pyramid. So here are my suggestions for membership : Glasgow University Third Lanark Clydebank (New Ground) FC Oban & District FC Edusport Academy (from SoSL) Queens Park Spiders Strathclyde University Cowlairs (1896) Glasgow Islands Amateurs (Vale of) Girvan United Glasgow Corporation Parks Department Ayrshire Soccer Academy EU Activists (Strathclyde) FC 13 clubs for starters ! Surely west of Scotland Junior Clubs would be rushing to join the WoS (Seniors) League as it would present a rapid rise to the Lowland League. Can you name any other interested clubs ? If there has been zero appetite for joining the current LL, imagine how strong the prospect will be for signing up for a league below it where a good proportion of the sides suffer from the some might say major handicap of not actually existing. Oban & District I assume are some fantasy rebranding of Oban Saints, Queens Park Spiders I believe are a fans' side - not sure if they're even still going. Rangers fans would welcome a resurrected Cowlairs, if only for the fact that no-one would call THEM zombies anymore, although given the fact that no-one's been sufficiently bothered about them for the last 100+ years to start them again, their re-appearance would seem unlikely. Glasgow Islands do actually exist, although in the lower reaches of the Saturday morning amateur game playing on public parks. Vale of Girvan United sound like an unholy amalgam of a current Ayrshire amateur team and the current juniors which ain't going to happen, while I think Glasgow Corporation Parks Department is being confused with Glasgow Corporation Transport FC who used to enter the Scottish Cup up until the late 60s/early 70s. Neither they, Helenvale Park their ground or indeed Glasgow Corporation exist anymore. EU Activists (Strathclyde) FC has got to be a wind-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 If you consider this to be a wind up, have a look at Pie & Bovril "North of Scotland Senior League" (new topic) which tries to ignite a Pyramid 'extension' in the Highland Region - as a wake up call to the SFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 On 21/07/2016 at 15:41, Hillonearth said: Rangers fans would welcome a resurrected Cowlairs, if only for the fact that no-one would call THEM zombies anymore, although given the fact that no-one's been sufficiently bothered about them for the last 100+ years to start them again, their re-appearance would seem unlikely. I think he's referring to Cowlairs from the Glasgow & District Sunday League, recently crowned overall league champions. The Sunday leaguers are significantly weaker in every manner (calibre of player, resources, etc) than even the lowliest of the amateur concerns, so to flag them up as material for a potential West of Scotland Senior league is silly - you may as well include Possil Fleet FC from the Jakey Bams Indoor Five A Sides league or Wee Jimmy Un His Mates United from the Barshaw Park Jumpers For Goalposts League. For Robert James information, the gap vacated by the original Cowlairs (and for that matter Northern) was filled a long, long time ago by Petershill of the Junior leagues - specifically to fill the gap created by the folding of both Cowlairs and Northern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magoo Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 There are some topics that will be looked back upon in 5 years time and everyone will think......wow.....This will prob make top 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drs Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 On 23/07/2016 at 22:21, Robert James said: If you consider this to be a wind up, have a look at Pie & Bovril "North of Scotland Senior League" (new topic) which tries to ignite a Pyramid 'extension' in the Highland Region - as a wake up call to the SFA. Hi Bob, you high as a kite? regards P&B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 On 7/26/2016 at 11:50, drs said: Hi Bob, you high as a kite? regards P&B Too busy working out 2016/17 football tactics on (university) paper, to indulge in kite flying. However, I didn't know you were a defender of the gaps in the SFA pyramid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 On 6/28/2016 at 14:08, stanley said: Would Glasgow University and Girvan even be interested in playing in a West of Scotland League? Maybe the former but I'm not sure about the latter. Glasgow Uni FC would be the second applicant for the West of Scotland (senior) Pyramid League, and Girvan may well be the third. The primary WoSPL applicant would be Clydebank...... when the club gets its new ground. Third Lanark and Strathclyde Uni FC may raise those interested to 5 teams, but without the Juniors, no West of Scotland (senior) League would be practical. Unless of course, anyone knows of other credible participants from the west, eg Rothesay, Oban Saints, etc ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 If the were to be a West of Scot. League it would be at Tier 5 and would mostly consist of current LL teams: East Kilbride, Cumbernauld Colts, BSC Glasgow, Dalbeattie Star, Gretna St Cuthberts and Threave from the SoSL Glasgow Uni as an Amatuer side Then anything from 2-8 other teams from Junior and Amateur ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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