FlyerTon Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 May wants to build new Trident now. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/04/theresa-may-calls-for-urgent-go-ahead-on-trident-replacement/ With us coming out of Europe and the Tories in full control, worrying times ahead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arabdownunder Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 £350 million a week should cover the cost of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Correct decision IMHO. Very interesting to see what happens if they're renewed and then Scotland goes independent. In 2014 the preferred option was for a deal to be struck to keep Faslane as an rUK naval base with Scotland getting something else in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Correct decision IMHO. Very interesting to see what happens if they're renewed and then Scotland goes independent. In 2014 the preferred option was for a deal to be struck to keep Faslane as an rUK naval base with Scotland getting something else in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted July 5, 2016 Author Share Posted July 5, 2016 Correct decision IMHO. Very interesting to see what happens if they're renewed and then Scotland goes independent. In 2014 the preferred option was for a deal to be struck to keep Faslane as an rUK naval base with Scotland getting something else in return. Tories have took Scotland for mugs. Shut down almost the entire RAF here (1 base remains), coastguard stations etc However, they'll let us keep the weapons of mass destruction 25 miles as the crow flies from the centre of Scotland's biggest city. Would they move these nukes to just outside Portsmouth? No fuc*ing chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted July 5, 2016 Author Share Posted July 5, 2016 They were going to do oil and gas exploration off Arran and Kintyre. No chance with the nuke subs here. http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/trident-removal-may-allow-oil-and-gas-exploration-1-3241185 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 It's good to see the Government showing a real lead here as a role model to all by spending money it doesn't have on things it doesn't need. UKplc in microcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Tories have took Scotland for mugs. Shut down almost the entire RAF here (1 base remains), coastguard stations etc However, they'll let us keep the weapons of mass destruction 25 miles as the crow flies from the centre of Scotland's biggest city. Would they move these nukes to just outside Portsmouth? No fuc*ing chance. Why not? Is there an inherent danger in where they're kept? Where do America keep theirs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 It's good to see the Government showing a real lead here as a role model to all by spending money it doesn't have on things it doesn't need. UKplc in microcasm. It does need them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 It does need them. "It" being the Government one would assume. For one thing they are not an "independent" deterrent. Trident is largely yank technology running with yank satellites and ergo needs the yanks to authorize the whole caper. Secondly, this whole grossly exorbitant venture is the definition of a vanity project. To keep a seat on the security council? We ignore the United Nations with impunity when it suits (see Iraq). The sooner that everyone in Whitehall admits that Suez was the end for us as a genuine global power and we swallow our pride the better. We rely on the United States who it is known would prefer us to have functioning conventional armed forces rather than a half arsed compromise of our military as is, and Trident. The irony with brexit is that our standing, influence and clout is on the wane yet again. That includes the"special relationship" btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 It does need them. Lay off a little on the trolling. Is your medication running low? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 It does need them. Apply some logic please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Pew, pew. Rool Britannia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 It should be scrapped entirely. The 'defence' budget should be roughly zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Why not? Is there an inherent danger in where they're kept? Where do America keep theirs? Faslane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Why not? Is there an inherent danger in where they're kept? The biggest danger is to the local MP's seat*, which is why the Tories put them in a place they haven't a hope in hell of winning. *Well, apart from it being a primary target in any nuclear conflict, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 What is Trident deterring? To justify the name nearly all MPs and most of the media give it, it must be deterring something. "Keeping the King of England outta yer face?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 According to a submariner of my acquaintance the original plan was to put them in West Cornwall but there's more cloud cover in the west of Scotland making it harder to monitor by the satellite technology that was available at the time of the decision.The improvements in spy satellite technology have made this less of a factor these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotSquid Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Why not? Is there an inherent danger in where they're kept? Where do America keep theirs? America have a base in Florida certainly that's about 40 miles from Jacksonville. Population 850,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 May wants to build new Trident now. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/04/theresa-may-calls-for-urgent-go-ahead-on-trident-replacement/ With us coming out of Europe and the Tories in full control, worrying times ahead? and Trump at the helm. America have a base in Florida certainly that's about 40 miles from Jacksonville. Population 850,000. Do they only have the one base? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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