RedRob72 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 2018 or later or not at all for triggering is only 2/1, 11/8 for us to stick to May's timetable for triggering. As mentioned earlier, she may well stick to her timetable for triggering article 50, but will quickly find herself (and her government) knee deep in the mud as soon as the moment they decide to wade out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIEA Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 After Thatcherism, Blairism, the French and Germans are now talking about Mayism. Translates as " talks a lot , does nothing " 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 34 minutes ago, ayrmad said: I actually think B will slow the process up more than A, I just don't understand how a government can allow a referendum without having some sort of clue what they're going to do immediately never mind 5 months later, they'll certainly have no right to request a timeframe or berate any timeframe put for independence if we ever decide to have indyref2. Because they knew the vote would be to "remain". Tough luck, government. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poo Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, Jacksgranda said: Because they knew the vote would be to "remain". Tough luck, government. If the knew that, then the result would have been "remain". The result is always as they plan it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIEA Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 41 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: Because they knew the vote would be to "remain". Tough luck, government. Just proves the adage that " assumption is the mother of all f*ck ups " 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Jacksgranda said: Because they knew the vote would be to "remain". Tough luck, government. I'll bow to your undoubted experience. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 57 minutes ago, WILLIEA said: Just proves the adage that " assumption is the mother of all f*ck ups " If that's not an adage it ought to be! (At least it's not an old adage...) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I've lost count of the amount of times that I've said this on this discussion that Brexit will define May as PM. Going by what I've seen so far, she is going to make a bad job of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 May's Brexit plan- 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 May doesn't want a timescale that allows the full impact of Brexit to materialise before the 2020 election. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIEA Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 3 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: If that's not an adage it ought to be! (At least it's not an old adage...) It was a mantra used a lot when I ran businesses 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 May doesn't want a timescale that allows the full impact of Brexit to materialise before the 2020 election. Perhaps that's why she should call one now, to give her and her cabinet the full five year term to put a proper plan in place, not this current shambles. I don't think Labour pose a big enough threat under Corbyn to win and replace them. The Lib Dems are shot and the English won't buy a pact with Labour and the SNP, I'm surprised she didn't call one as soon as she was elected leader tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, RedRob72 said: Perhaps that's why she should call one now, to give her and her cabinet the full five year term to put a proper plan in place, not this current shambles. I don't think Labour pose a big enough threat under Corbyn to win and replace them. The Lib Dems are shot and the English won't buy a pact with Labour and the SNP, I'm surprised she didn't call one as soon as she was elected leader tbh. She can't call an election. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 She can't call an election. Aye but I think you know what I mean.You don't think she could get 2/3rds of the HoC to support an early call for an election? Understand that Corbyn is said to be in favour despite his current standing in the polls? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, RedRob72 said: Aye but I think you know what I mean. You don't think she could get 2/3rds of the HoC to support an early call for an election. Understand that Corbyn is said to be in favour despite his current standing in the polls? I doubt anyone would be confident about an election at the moment. I'd imagine a lot of MPs would be against it, especially Labour MPs worried about their seat. I'd also think that, despite the polls, a lot of Tories would be the exact same. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I doubt anyone would be confident about an election at the moment. I'd imagine a lot of MPs would be against it, especially Labour MPs worried about their seat. I'd also think that, despite the polls, a lot of Tories would be the exact same. Yep fair enough, plus every party would be forced to include their own Brexit strategy as part of their manifesto? That would certainly have em panicking!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 12 minutes ago, RedRob72 said: Yep fair enough, plus every party would be forced to include their own Brexit strategy as part of their manifesto? That would certainly have em panicking!! Crazy talk rob,dont you remember boris gove and fox getting grilled on the brexit plan??.......oh wait they had a some stuff on the side of a bus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Crazy talk rob,dont you remember boris gove and fox getting grilled on the brexit plan??.......oh wait they had a some stuff on the side of a bus I remember how quiet they all were, once the shock of winning actually started to sink in. 'Oh f*ck, what do we do now'!? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Aye but I think you know what I mean.You don't think she could get 2/3rds of the HoC to support an early call for an election?Understand that Corbyn is said to be in favour despite his current standing in the polls? Corbin never strikes one as a man who's bothered by the idea of losing an elections 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Corbin never strikes one as a man who's bothered by the idea of losing an elections Probably a good thing that he's got no chance of ever winning a GE then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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