welshbairn Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Here’s a scenario I could live with: 1. Johnson returns to Parliament with a ‘new’ deal which is really May’s deal. 2. Parliament reject this despite many right wing Labour MPs backing it. 3. We crash out on 31 October. 4. Johnson tries to call an immediate GE but fails to get the necessary numbers. What larks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 You missed:5. SNP landslide in Scotland.6. SNP supply and confidence deal to the party that gives them IndyRef2.Eh.... And we vote for independence and leave the cluster f**k uk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/news/local/aberdeen-design-shop-owners-say-brexit-effect-linked-to-decision-shut-after-27-years/amp/?__twitter_impression=true 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Only the minority UKIP bampots really gave a f**k about the EU before the Brexit referendum.Now the entire population have been whipped into a Hard Brexit frenzy by the pro-right media.Good times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) Campbell, Mandelson and Blair setting out to overturn the result from 17/6/16 didn't help either. In Parliament the opportunity was the vote for the Customs Union which would have had a majority if it was supported by the SNP and Lib Dems. Edited August 30, 2019 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 Campbell, Mandelson and Blair setting out to overturn the result from 17/6/16 didn't help either. In Parliament the opportunity was the vote for the Customs Union which would have had a majority if it was supported by the SNP and Lib Dems.That was only an indicative vote with no access to single market. Man, you really hate the SNP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: 35 minutes ago, Detournement said: Campbell, Mandelson and Blair setting out to overturn the result from 17/6/16 didn't help either. In Parliament the opportunity was the vote for the Customs Union which would have had a majority if it was supported by the SNP and Lib Dems. That was only an indicative vote with no access to single market. Man, you really hate the SNP I don't blame the SNP for going all out for their preferred outcome but if we end up with No Deal that will be the one vote where it was possible to take a different track. If a majority went for it then May and the cabinet would have gone with it. VONC next week anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Tonk Man Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I see they are intensifying their efforts. Meeting twice a week now. No wonder we are in the cr@p if that is intensive. Monday 0900: Honey monster's crack team: Do you agree to remove the Irish backstop? EU: No. Hmct: See you on Wednesday... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Surprised (not) that this has not been reported more.https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/yougov-poll-on-proroguing-parliament-1-6240772 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 6 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Surprised (not) that this has not been reported more. https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/yougov-poll-on-proroguing-parliament-1-6240772 Just over half the Tories interviewed agreed? That’s way down on another poll I saw. The Tories in this country have lurched to the right in large numbers. I think this is due in part to them seeing Labour policies under Corbyn. Regardless of his personal (in)abilities he’s the first Labour leader in decades who would make significant and structural changes to society. That’s what the blue rinse brigade and gammons are shit scared of. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 (edited) I hope Facebook rep and weak Tory collaborator Nick Clegg doesn't get forgotten when the Public Enquiry of this clusterfuck of epic proportions ever gets launched. Without his Fixed Terms Parliament Act, for which he sold the welfare state and student fees, there would have been a General Election after the Government lost its key legislation in December. No question. Edited September 1, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 10 hours ago, Granny Danger said: The Tories in this country have lurched to the right in large numbers. I think this is due in part to them seeing Labour policies under Corbyn. Regardless of his personal (in)abilities he’s the first Labour leader in decades who would make significant and structural changes to society. That’s what the blue rinse brigade and gammons are shit scared of. You talk some utter drivel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Corbyn should stand aside now and hand the reigns of his party to Keir Starmer. At least he (Starmer) seems to have some idea as to how he wants matters to progress from here. The ever dilatory Corbyn is still weighing it all up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 1, 2019 Author Share Posted September 1, 2019 Just over half the Tories interviewed agreed? That’s way down on another poll I saw. The Tories in this country have lurched to the right in large numbers. I think this is due in part to them seeing Labour policies under Corbyn. Regardless of his personal (in)abilities he’s the first Labour leader in decades who would make significant and structural changes to society. That’s what the blue rinse brigade and gammons are shit scared of. Corbyn is killing labour. Surely you see this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenanover Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: 11 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Just over half the Tories interviewed agreed? That’s way down on another poll I saw. The Tories in this country have lurched to the right in large numbers. I think this is due in part to them seeing Labour policies under Corbyn. Regardless of his personal (in)abilities he’s the first Labour leader in decades who would make significant and structural changes to society. That’s what the blue rinse brigade and gammons are shit scared of. Corbyn is killing labour. Surely you see this I actually agree with you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 22 minutes ago, dorlomin said: You talk some utter drivel. That’s rich given your signature on here! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 21 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Corbyn should stand aside now and hand the reigns of his party to Keir Starmer. At least he (Starmer) seems to have some idea as to how he wants matters to progress from here. The ever dilatory Corbyn is still weighing it all up. 10 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: Corbyn is killing labour. Surely you see this You two talk utter shite. If people want to vote for a Tory Lite party they should do so. That party should not be the Labour Party. The Labour Party should offer a genuine alternative. If people don’t want to vote for that alternative fair enough, but far more people will once the clusterfuck of Brexit is resolved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: You two talk utter shite. If people want to vote for a Tory Lite party they should do so. That party should not be the Labour Party. The Labour Party should offer a genuine alternative. If people don’t want to vote for that alternative fair enough, but far more people will once the clusterfuck of Brexit is resolved. Communism's finished now, Granny..... We've moved on quite a bit since the glory days of Ken Livingstone and Tony Benn. High time you got yourself into the 21st Century. Edited September 1, 2019 by ICTJohnboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: You two talk utter shite. If people want to vote for a Tory Lite party they should do so. That party should not be the Labour Party. The Labour Party should offer a genuine alternative. If people don’t want to vote for that alternative fair enough, but far more people will once the clusterfuck of Brexit is resolved. Sorry Granny, that's just incorrect. Since 1950...almost 70 years ago....Labour have formed the UK government for a massive 5 years (if you exclude the 'hated' Tony Blair years). UK voters will never, ever vote in a Corbyn-led Labour administration. The country hasn't voted in a socialist administration since 1945. Edited September 1, 2019 by Bob Mahelp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: Sorry Granny, that's just incorrect. Since 1950...almost 70 years ago....Labour have formed the UK government for a massive 5 years (if you exclude the 'hated' Tony Blair years). UK voters will never, ever vote in Corbyn-led Labour administration. The country hasn't voted in a socialist administration since 1945. There is nothing that I have said that is contradicted by your post. If people don’t want to vote for a ‘socialist’ manifesto then they won’t. But they should definitely have the opportunity to do so. ETA Remember the predictions that a Corbyn was going to get annihilated in 2016? I do. He didn’t win but he got far more votes than anyone predicted. Edited September 1, 2019 by Granny Danger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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