Cerberus Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I wonder if at some stage there will be a reward system brought in to report illegal immigrants. The shameful one in the UK for benefit fraud was disturbingly successful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, Cerberus said: I wonder if at some stage there will be a reward system brought in to report illegal immigrants. The shameful one in the UK for benefit fraud was disturbingly successful. ^^^Business Ideas thread for this pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I'm surprised the smartest man in the world hasn't thought of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Cerberus said: I'm surprised the smartest man in the world hasn't thought of it. Always best to prepare for the inevitable. You're in place, I have no morals, and San Francisco has a good record for start ups. We just have to get Waffenthinmint in as researcher to have a goer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 3 hours ago, welshbairn said: You're right to be sceptical. How did he know about Soros for example? To be fair, thats a widely held belief with many right leaning people. There is apparently evidence showing he was Hillary's biggest financial backer for both of her election attempts and many claim to have proof that he has financially backed many of the riots and protests against Trump thus far. He has also apparently lost 1 billion dollars since Trump got in although i don't know why(purely because i haven't cared enough to look into it) Which if all this were to be true would suggest his motive for doing so. But at this point this is nothing more than speculation, i just found it interesting and thought it might lead to some conversation on the subject. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 40 minutes ago, EdgarusQPFC said: To be fair, thats a widely held belief with many right leaning people. There is apparently evidence showing he was Hillary's biggest financial backer for both of her election attempts and many claim to have proof that he has financially backed many of the riots and protests against Trump thus far. He has also apparently lost 1 billion dollars since Trump got in although i don't know why(purely because i haven't cared enough to look into it) Which if all this were to be true would suggest his motive for doing so. But at this point this is nothing more than speculation, i just found it interesting and thought it might lead to some conversation on the subject. I will tell you another 'widely held belief with right leaning people' it's that global warming is a myth. Another is that there were 3-5 million illegal voters in the Presidential election and that they ALL voted for Clinton. Not only do 'right leaning people' believe the most ridiculous shit, they also believe that because many other people share their 'beliefs' that this somehow validates them. If something is factually incorrect it doesn't matter how many folk believe it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Granny Danger said: I will tell you another 'widely held belief with right leaning people' it's that global warming is a myth. Another is that there were 3-5 million illegal voters in the Presidential election and that they ALL voted for Clinton. Not only do 'right leaning people' believe the most ridiculous shit, they also believe that because many other people share their 'beliefs' that this somehow validates them. If something is factually incorrect it doesn't matter how many folk believe it. Never said it was right or wrong, just said I'm aware that it's believed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 But you clearly have some issue with Milo being brought down for supporting noncing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 4 hours ago, NotThePars said: But you clearly have some issue with Milo being brought down for supporting noncing. The argument can easily be made that his views on this are influenced by being a victim of pedophillia and what is really concerning is that he refuses to give up the identity of the priest who did this to him in the first place, that bothers me more than anything because for all we know Milo is not his only victim and the guy is still doing this to kids and teenagers he is in a position of authority over. Milo has apparently been asked to give up the priests name several times including on the podcast where he said the things he did and Milo outright refuses to do so, always referring to the priest by a pseudonym. Prior to this all happening he is someone i haven't really given much attention to, im not a fan of professional Trolls and people who say shit to get attention like that. I wouldnt really have learned much about this other than a headline if i didnt happen to watch the podcast he was on when he said this stuff. Its actually the most viewed episode of their entire 300+ episode show but ive never watched it personally, mostly because i dont give the guy the time of day. What bothers me more than anything is this recurring use of the pedophile label and others to discredit and no platform people, the youtuber Sargon of Akkad recently was banned from Twitter due to a screencap of an apparent conversation he had with a fan via direct messages in which he asked for child porn. No investigation was undertaken by twitter, they didnt look at the message logs or question anyone, they went from 0 to ban immediately and since that happened its been shown that anyone using the HTML functions on any internet browser can alter a DM chatbox to make it seem like anyone is saying anything and it can be done in a matter of minutes. Even the guy who took the screencap and sent it to twitter has admitted via a tweet that he made it up to get sargon banned and twitter have as of yet refused to unban him. The Transgendered youtuber Blaire White was banned from facebook for unknown reasons recently also, facebook refused to tell her why she had been. Regardless of political leaning (im apparently very slightly left leaning but generally in the middle) i think deplatforming should not take place. Everyone has the right to voice their opinions on a subject and its up to everyone to either agree/disagree or simply ignore. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Walls going to be ahead of schedule and the greatest build up of the military is trumpys speech today 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Walls going to be ahead of schedule and the greatest build up of the military is trumpys speech today I overheard that large numbers of illegal immigrants have/are being deported at the moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I overheard that large numbers of illegal immigrants have/are being deported at the moment. Just caught a wee bit on bbc world 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Just now, doulikefish said: Just caught a wee bit on bbc world I overheard it when passing the tv earlier so i didn't hear much. Only that there has been alot of outrage on both sides of the border. Mexico doesn't want them back and people in the US dont want them to leave. But if they are there illegally then isnt Trump only just enforcing the law? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I overheard it when passing the tv earlier so i didn't hear much. Only that there has been alot of outrage on both sides of the border. Mexico doesn't want them back and people in the US dont want them to leave. But if they are there illegally then isnt Trump only just enforcing the law? Its a cluster basically 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Mexico can refuse to take anyone they're trying to deport without Mexican papers; Central Americans or undocumented people for example. More Mexicans have been migrating home than moving North in recent years anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I think the outrage comes from Mexico because ICE are papping all undocumented people there whether they are Mexican or not. They are also doing it without going before a judge, which is probably illegal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Cerberus said: I think the outrage comes from Mexico because ICE are papping all undocumented people there whether they are Mexican or not. They are also doing it without going before a judge, which is probably illegal. Ah, cheers for that. Makes total sense why there would be outrage then. Can't argue you are enforcing the law when bypassing it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I think Trump's really fucked himself with Mexico, they're hugely reliant on cooperation over border control, people, drugs, other smuggling, intelligence etc. Mexico buys more US exports than any other country apart from Canada. Saying Mexico would pay for the wall and calling them thieves and rapists has consequences. With elections coming up, any Mexican politician who offers concessions to and doesn't resist the US will be out of office. The net result, both sides lose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Can't be bothered quoting but everyone has a right to an opinion but not everyone has a right to a platform and the vast majority of child abuse victims don't then turn into pieces of shit like Milo did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Ack it's alright he can just obliterate Mexico and secure himself another term. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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