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5 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:

Educated son of a knight and minor land owner.

He was sufficiently posh to have had someone else to do the tilling of the soil while he got involved in politics and hitting people with swords

 

Aw haud the bus here, are you saying Wallace was a Tory? This changes a'hing man, a'hing.

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Socialism allows people to fulfil their potential regardless of what their parents did for a living or what area they come from, while also providing support and care if things go tits up (whether it's your own fault or due to events beyond your control).

I'm with Socialism.

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Economic stability, interest rates, growth. It's not all a conspiracy to keep you in little boxes, alright? It's only the miracle of consumer capitalism that means you're not lying in your own shit, dying at 43 with rotten teeth. And a little pill with a chicken on it is not going to change that.

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7 hours ago, Bully Wee Villa said:

Socialism allows people to fulfil their potential regardless of what their parents did for a living or what area they come from, while also providing support and care if things go tits up (whether it's your own fault or due to events beyond your control).

I'm with Socialism.

I take it you are in China or Cuba then. If not I'm sure they would welcome you.:whistle

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6 hours ago, hehawhehaw said:

I take it you are in China or Cuba then. If not I'm sure they would welcome you.:whistle

^^^ Doesn't know the difference between Socialism and Communism ^^^

It's like saying Capitalism is the same thing as Fascism.

Btw, I don't think China can really be considered a communist nation anymore. It has opened itself up to the word and corporatism in a huge way over the last couple of decades.

Does their government still spy on them? Absolutely. Although probably no more or less than governments of the western world.

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3 hours ago, Poo said:

^^^ Doesn't know the difference between Socialism and Communism ^^^

It's like saying Capitalism is the same thing as Fascism.

Btw, I don't think China can really be considered a communist nation anymore. It has opened itself up to the word and corporatism in a huge way over the last couple of decades.

Does their government still spy on them? Absolutely. Although probably no more or less than governments of the western world.

How good is that^^^ Not very

Been keeping your head low for a wee while poo. We both know why.

You do realise that fascism was a leftist construct. Mussolini was the father of fascism, and a renowned socialist. So was Hitler. They all followed on from Sorel, Robespierre and Rousseau

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On ‎30‎/‎11‎/‎2016 at 00:18, Bully Wee Villa said:

Socialism allows people to fulfil their potential regardless of what their parents did for a living or what area they come from, while also providing support and care if things go tits up (whether it's your own fault or due to events beyond your control).

I'm with Socialism.

In theory, yes. In practice??? Cronyism, oppression, suppression, corruption, economic stagnation, isolation, hunger..... War.

Cuba's ruling elite was lucky it was an island, it was like a prison to the people.

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Feel free to list all the lovely capitalist countries in Central America/the Caribbean. It was a Mafia-run shithole before Castro took over. It could have been better... and certainly would've been had America not acted like little birches and blocked off their main trade outlet.

Communism was, undoubtedly, a success story for Cuba.

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