GAD Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Captain_Sensible said: You’re possibly right but the rest of my post is true. If we want him off the books and want to free up his wages to sign someone else then we’ll either need to let him go to whoever wants him or give him a pay off IMO! There are bonuses he won't be making as well, his value will be dropping too if he's not playing regularly enough, not to mention if he's not training he will already be a few weeks behind on pre season, and the longer that goes on, the worse it is for him. I do agree with you that the "we hold all the cards" stuff is wrong, but Carson doesn't either, especially at this stage in his career. This will cost him money if it drags on, both now and in future earnings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, Captain_Sensible said: You’re possibly right but the rest of my post is true. If we want him off the books and want to free up his wages to sign someone else then we’ll either need to let him go to whoever wants him or give him a pay off IMO! I suppose the main thrust of my point was that if he still has potentially 4-6 years left of a playing career, then he should in theory still carry some value. Perhaps that’s wishful thinking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Div said: The problem of letting him train with the youth for the remainder of his contract is that it would easily cost us best part of £150K. If he’s not going to play for whatever reason then we need to shift him and replace him, preferably with Vaclav. No problem with him moving on but £150k is money well spent if it means we don't get relegated because we sold one of our best players to a direct rival. If the split is too big, then he can go anywhere he likes, just not to a rival. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torfason Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Things must have been said that can't be taken back otherwise this would have been sorted by now but until he is off the books we probably won't have space for his replacement. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 As always Shakespeare gets it right... Quote If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere wellIt were done in time to get a replacement before the window closes ...if he ever gives up the playwriting he's got a future in football managment. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuits Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 We really need to hear something from the club about this. The silence is deafening 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Biscuits said: We really need to hear something from the club about this. The silence is deafening I don't think we'll hear anything from the club until the situation is resolved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medals Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Biscuits said: We really need to hear something from the club about this. The silence is deafening Best not to wash dirty laundry publicly. Once it's resolved we'll hear what we need to know. We have to just wait it out and trust in management 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 The "story" is already out there, I don't think we'll ever hear anything fishul from the club and I think that's the best outcome - some sorta agreement between the club and Carson to keep schtum. I'm close to The Cap'ns POV that we'll do well to get out of the situation without some sorta pay-off to Carson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS77 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 28 minutes ago, Biscuits said: We really need to hear something from the club about this. The silence is deafening No chance we’ll get anything from the club on it and it wouldn’t be smart to publicise that one of our best players and the gaffer have had a fall out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 The only information we're likely to get is if he signs for another club or his contract has been terminated. If he stays, he'll be referred to by the manager in an interview as being "available for selection" or he'll appear in the team lines prior to a match. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Sensible Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 16 minutes ago, FTOF said: The only information we're likely to get is if he signs for another club or his contract has been terminated. If he stays, he'll be referred to by the manager in an interview as being "available for selection" or he'll appear in the team lines prior to a match. Like you said though, if the reasons for this situation are true, I’m surprised this hasn’t made the papers yet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tam the bud Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 He had 3 previous games against the blue mob for his family to watch so f him. I certainly wouldn't have him sitting at home collecting his money. Get him into training knowing he is training all week and not getting a game at the end of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZingaliMan Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 hour ago, btb said: The "story" is already out there, I don't think we'll ever hear anything fishul from the club and I think that's the best outcome - some sorta agreement between the club and Carson to keep schtum. I'm close to The Cap'ns POV that we'll do well to get out of the situation without some sorta pay-off to Carson. The story is out there ? Do you not mean assume the story is out there when in fact no one knows it's speculation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ZingaliMan said: The story is out there ? Do you not mean assume the story is out there when in fact no one knows it's speculation. That's why I put story in inverted commas - the "story" is out there. ********************** Signalling unusual usage Quotation marks are also used to indicate that the writer realises that a word is not being used in its current commonly accepted sense: Crystals somehow "know" which shape to grow into. Edited July 10, 2023 by btb 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW saint Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Wonder if we will see any player incomings before Saturday 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Sensible Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 49 minutes ago, tam the bud said: He had 3 previous games against the blue mob for his family to watch so f him. I certainly wouldn't have him sitting at home collecting his money. Get him into training knowing he is training all week and not getting a game at the end of it. Robinson won’t want a disgruntled player coming to training and causing problems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 We're all going to look more stupid than usual if the reason for his absence is eff all to do with the "story" that's out there. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenburn bud Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, FTOF said: We're all going to look more stupid than usual if the reason for his absence is eff all to do with the "story" that's out there. If he had a prior arrangement with the club to train 3 days a week, due to travel arrangements with his family living in the North of England. I would imagine the best outcome for both player and club would be for him to find a club in that region. With the club receiving a fee that covers the two years remaining on his contract. Easier said than done I suppose, but the longer it goes on unresolved, then you have to imagine it might not be resolved between player and the manager. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tam the bud Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Captain_Sensible said: Robinson won’t want a disgruntled player coming to training and causing problems. If he causes problems, then surely he can be sent home without pay. Would that not happen in your workplace ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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