MenstrieSaint Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Can't see the point of going for Bruce Anderson even if we got him for nothing , doubt he,s any better than Greive ,just think his name is being mentioned as part of the silly mind games with Glentoran . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, ATLIS said: Given we’re selling Nouble, selling our only other standout forward probably won’t happen. Because of that we’d be asking for a very good fee, it’s not exactly a step up for him either. Probably something about 350k which there’s no chance you lot pay Not being disrespectful here but nearly every other team in the premiership is a step up from Livingston. You’ve got a couple of hundred season ticket holders plus I’ve played on better blaze pitches than that monstrosity of yours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, McG said: Not being disrespectful here but nearly every other team in the premiership is a step up from Livingston. You’ve got a couple of hundred season ticket holders plus I’ve played on better blaze pitches than that monstrosity of yours. I don’t see it. In truth there’s very little between any of St Johnstone, us, St Mirren, Dundee etc. Some clubs can pay a bit more amongst that but in terms of size and league finishes most of those there are interchangeable. Couple hundred is underselling it Being fair to us it’s about 1,350 which has been a season on season increase each year for 6 years. Only 6 years ago I think we had 700, so we’ve nearly doubled it in that time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torfason Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 That feeling when you realize you’ve been given 2 years at Morton. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, ATLIS said: I don’t see it. In truth there’s very little between any of St Johnstone, us, St Mirren, Dundee etc. Some clubs can pay a bit more amongst that but in terms of size and league finishes most of those there are interchangeable. Couple hundred is underselling it Being fair to us it’s about 1,350 which has been a season on season increase each year for 6 years. Only 6 years ago I think we had 700, so we’ve nearly doubled it in that time. I do see it, St mirren and Dundee are both bigger clubs than Livingston mate. That’s good you’re attendances/season ticket sales are up, for a while Johnstone Burgh had more season ticket holders than livvy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, McG said: I do see it, St mirren and Dundee are both bigger clubs than Livingston mate. That’s good you’re attendances/season ticket sales are up, for a while Johnstone Burgh had more season ticket holders than livvy. I guess it's a subjective thing, but it's about more than attendances for me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, ATLIS said: I guess it's a subjective thing, but it's about more than attendances for me Attendances, years in the top flight, trophies, history, administrations, failing to pay rent on a council stadium, that sort of stuff. We’re bigger. And better. Subjective matter indeed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 It’s a completely pointless debate, but I’d say that there is not one single measure by which Livi are even remotely as “big” a club as St. Mirren. Whatever that means. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, pozbaird said: Attendances, years in the top flight, trophies, history, administrations, failing to pay rent on a council stadium, that sort of stuff. We’re bigger. And better. Subjective matter indeed. I'd be very interested to know St Mirren's % time as a club spent in the top flight. It's probably higher than ours but ours is 38% of our time as a club spent in the top flight which isn't too bad. 11/~29 seasons. With two seasons spent in the bottom tier and we've climbed back up. We're along way from the years of financial turmoil of the 2000s, grown as a club and settled ourselves. 8 trophies in ~29 seasons again isn't bad though. It can get skewed a bit given we're a 'new' club - as far as I'm concerned we're 1995 onwards. Just takes time to build up tradition and a club etc, which St Mirren have had the benefit to do. Not a knock on yourselves obviously 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welldaft Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Only table that really matters. League is bread and butter. That table probably also illustrates size as well as success. Dundee United being a notable outlier I guess due to their late formation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Bo Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, ATLIS said: I'd be very interested to know St Mirren's % time as a club spent in the top flight. It's probably higher than ours but ours is 38% of our time as a club spent in the top flight which isn't too bad. 11/~29 seasons. With two seasons spent in the bottom tier and we've climbed back up. We're along way from the years of financial turmoil of the 2000s, grown as a club and settled ourselves. 8 trophies in ~29 seasons again isn't bad though. It can get skewed a bit given we're a 'new' club - as far as I'm concerned we're 1995 onwards. Just takes time to build up tradition and a club etc, which St Mirren have had the benefit to do. Not a knock on yourselves obviously Ours is about 80%, from 123 seasons I don't have the same disdain as others do for Livi. But you are not close to st mirren in terms of size Edited July 4, 2023 by Stan Bo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Sensible Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, ATLIS said: It can get skewed a bit given we're a 'new' club - as far as I'm concerned we're 1995 onwards. Just takes time to build up tradition and a club etc, which St Mirren have had the benefit to do. Not a knock on yourselves obviously Your club was founded in 1943. Its your 80th anniversary this year 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW saint Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Got to give Livi their dues. Probably a smaller club etc but they punch above their weight each season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Just now, Captain_Sensible said: Your club was founded in 1943. Its your 80th anniversary this year As far as I'm concerned, we're 95 onwards. I'm not going to sit around and claim another club's history like a certain club in this league 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Sensible Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, welldaft said: Only table that really matters. League is bread and butter. That table probably also illustrates size as well as success. Dundee United being a notable outlier I guess due to their late formation. I hope that table doesn’t include Sevco’s results in the Rangers FC stats? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Sensible Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ATLIS said: As far as I'm concerned, we're 95 onwards. I'm not going to sit around and claim another club's history like a certain club in this league You appear to be attempting to disassociate yourself from your own club’s history for some reason? Your club was founded in 1943, not 1995. Sevco were founded in 2012 Edited July 4, 2023 by Captain_Sensible 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Captain_Sensible said: You appear to be attempting to disassociate yourself from your own club’s history for some reason? Your club was founded in 1943, not 1995. Sevco wete founded in 2012 I just don't see how we can claim the history of a club that played in a different place under a different name as our own 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBank Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 hour ago, ATLIS said: Given we’re selling Nouble, selling our only other standout forward probably won’t happen. Because of that we’d be asking for a very good fee, it’s not exactly a step up for him either. Probably something about 350k which there’s no chance you lot pay So you reckon you'll get £350k for a guy that scored 6 goals last season with 1 year left on his contract? Don't think so. We can sign him in 6 months for a few bob. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Sensible Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ATLIS said: I just don't see how we can claim the history of a club that played in a different place under a different name as our own Because, for the majority of your club’s history your club played in a different place under a different name! It’s not a matter of claiming that history It *is* your history! Edited July 4, 2023 by Captain_Sensible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 minute ago, NorthBank said: So you reckon you'll get £350k for a guy that scored 6 goals last season with 1 year left on his contract? Don't think so. We can sign him in 6 months for a few bob. I don't think we can get it, but I think it's the price we put on him to deter other clubs going for him. He was injured for a lot of last season, and the season before where he got double figures and was second top goalscorer in the league I think? Behind RCC. It's the impact losing Nouble will have, that means we wont let Bruce go cheap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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