Munoz Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 I like the away top, a wee bit different. Will purchase. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 58 minutes ago, Ric said: The pink was chosen for a reason, to show inclusivity, which as I said in a previous post is a bit of a trope at this point. Like having a giant rainbow on stuff and saying "we support LGBT", you can be inclusive and supportive without needing to use the colours. We see this all the time with companies giving it laldy for pride month, changing their logos and twitter feeds (only in certain places of course, don't want company profits to be put at risk by being inclusive in a society - like Saudi Arabia - which is far from being inclusive) after the month is gone, it's just ignored. However, what the club claim about the combination of colours is utter PR nonsense. It's an explanation to suit a decision. How does pink "show inclusivity"? Only a complete fossil would still think pink was a "girls colour". Pink has been used in football tops for a long time now. I hope that showing inclusivity is your assumption rather than anything stated by the club, as that would be a pure beamer. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Bo Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 My two boys (14 and 11) absolutely love it. Imagine it will be a decent seller again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: How does pink "show inclusivity"? That's pretty much my point, it is a tired old trope. Pink, to Western culture, somehow means effeminate, effeminate means against the traditional heteronormative societal construct and therefore supportive of those who do not fit into that construct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Ric said: That's pretty much my point, it is a tired old trope. Pink, to Western culture, somehow means effeminate, effeminate means against the traditional heteronormative societal construct and therefore supportive of those who do not fit into that construct. But who said it was to show inclusivity? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy boo Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ric said: That's pretty much my point, it is a tired old trope. Pink, to Western culture, somehow means effeminate, effeminate means against the traditional heteronormative societal construct and therefore supportive of those who do not fit into that construct. Bloody hell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: But who said it was to show inclusivity? It's in the reveal. Do they explicitly say the word "inclusivity" no, but the phrase "together as one" is pretty clear. 1 minute ago, jimmy boo said: Bloody hell Is my spitting facts about cultural norms hitting the spot? They are? Good.. Edited July 12, 2023 by Ric -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Ric said: It's in the reveal. Do they explicitly say the word "inclusivity" no, but the phrase "together as one" is pretty clear. Surely the "together as one" relates to the participants in the reveal rather than the pink trim? Why do you assume it refers to the colour? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Bo Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Just now, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Surely the "together as one" relates to the participants in the reveal rather than the pink trim? Why do you assume it refers to the colour? I certainly took the 'together as one' as being it's the same kit being used by the men's, women and junior teams.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munoz Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 And there was me thinking "together as one" referred to the teams and supporters. You live and learn. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Stan Bo said: I certainly took the 'together as one' as being it's the same kit being used by the men's, women and junior teams.... Exactly. I think Ric is ironically the one propagating his tired old trope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Just now, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Surely the "together as one" relates to the participants in the reveal rather than the pink trim? Why do you assume it refers to the colour? I mean come on, it's hardly subtle. Why use pink at all, it has clear associations and is not represented in the club branding at all. Macron: Our marketing department thinks using pink will increase our brand image. St Mirren: Em, ok, but we don't have pink as a colour. Macron: This is your first order with us, right? St Mirren: Yeah. Macron: And you want a good deal, right? St Mirren: Yeah. Macron: So where do you want the pink then? St Mirren: ...er, the away kit? -7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Just now, Ric said: I mean come on, it's hardly subtle. Why use pink at all, it has clear associations and is not represented in the club branding at all. Macron: Our marketing department thinks using pink will increase our brand image. St Mirren: Em, ok, but we don't have pink as a colour. Macron: This is your first order with us, right? St Mirren: Yeah. Macron: And you want a good deal, right? St Mirren: Yeah. Macron: So where do you want the pink then? St Mirren: ...er, the away kit? Sorry mate, but all of this is saying more about your views than those of Macron or the club. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 minute ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Sorry mate, but all of this is saying more about your views than those of Macron or the club. What is it saying about my views? Personally I just think you are being a bit obtuse here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy boo Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Sorry mate, but all of this is saying more about your views than those of Macron or the club. He should've just blamed the Tories but that would be a tired old trope 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Bo Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ric said: I mean come on, it's hardly subtle. Why use pink at all, it has clear associations and is not represented in the club branding at all. Macron: Our marketing department thinks using pink will increase our brand image. St Mirren: Em, ok, but we don't have pink as a colour. Macron: This is your first order with us, right? St Mirren: Yeah. Macron: And you want a good deal, right? St Mirren: Yeah. Macron: So where do you want the pink then? St Mirren: ...er, the away kit? I'm 38, been going to games since 1990. In that time I've seen us wear purple, pale blue, orange!!, Yellow and others as our away kit. You don't need traditional colours for an away kit. If anything we should go as out the box as possible as kids lap all that up! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Just now, Ric said: What is it saying about my views? Personally I just think you are being a bit obtuse here. To me it's saying you are the one associating the colour pink as having to be about inclusion, thereby you are the one still conforming to that "western culture" that no one else seems to share. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmurn Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 On 07/07/2023 at 09:34, Div said: Anyone else logged into the new season ticket “app” yet? I can see my season ticket but it says it’s not going to be active until Sept 2nd which doesn’t sound right! Now showing 1st of August on mine so looks like it's fixed As for the new away shirt, I think it's fine. Not as good as last season, but it was unlikely to be anyway as that was our best away shirt ever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 My yin-yang suggestion is not looking so bad now and what could be greater for new market potential than tapping into into the popular Chinese philosophy of Taoism? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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