The Celtic All Seasons thread

[LiviLion]

1 minute ago, Flybhoy said:

No one is saying that at all as you know fine well,  the 'acting like a fanny' refers to him acting like a fanny whenever the two clubs play, nothing to do with racial abuse,  reporting it or not. 

Maybe, just maybe Shay could concentrate on trying to help his team win against Celtic instead of constantly trying to wind up the opposition support,  the fact their recent win at CP was their first win over Celtic in 13 attempts would suggest maybe he should channel his energies into his game rather than acting like a prize fud.

Why do you think he's acting like a fanny though? He just had a sudden change of personality aye?

[Londonwell]

Saint Brendan and Celtic fans outing themselves as utter cretins here.

I, for one, am completely in shock.

Edited July 10, 2018 by Londonwell

[The OP]

22 minutes ago, LiviLion said:

Swings at him?  He pushes him away, because he's up in his face squaring up to him. When he does walk away you've then got Boyata acting like a 5 year old throwing a ball at him, then while he's still walking away you've got some other Celtic player acting like a 5 year old and throwing the ball (and hilariously missing) at him again. Presumably Logan was getting stick throughout the game, I don't see the problem with players giving it back a bit but apparently the green arse cheek do. No one comes out of that video looking good though in any case.

No one took issue with it until Lustig confronted him tbf. I sit at the corner of the North and West stand and he started applauding the North stand to no reaction, then started applauding us to no reaction. It was when whatever your interpretation of what happened with Lustig happened that he got a reaction and started to get absolutely raging himself. My impression was Lustig said 'Your own fans are over there' then Logan said something back to which Lustig took exception. They  squared up and Logan swung an arm. Logan then carries on pushing and shrugging off anyone who tries to speak to him. Boyata seems to say words to the effect of 'What are you all about' and gets rebuked and chucks the ball in response. It then looked like Boyata realised Logan's head had gone and tries to speak to him to calm him down as he is being ushered off the pitch.

Like Lennon and McCoist you'll never know exactly what happened. Lustig really shouldn't have gotten involved and Logan shouldn't have really lost the plot. If he is alleging he was racially abused I'm assuming it was before all this because there is no way it happened when he was in the middle of the park lashing out or being escorted off the pitch and no-one else noticed. 

And yes, he is probably booed because Celtic supporters have taken Tonev's side, although he is also a confrontational player and a dick.  It's not simple as saying what @G-MAN is saying however, as some football supporters are always biased in a 50/50 like the Tonev case. FWIW at the game last season I loudly said to the person I was with that I disagree with it, however I also have the sense to see that every set of supporters would contain people who are not racist but would assume any accusations against their own team's player would be false. 

Edited July 10, 2018 by The OP

[Flybhoy]

4 minutes ago, LiviLion said:

Why do you think he's acting like a fanny though? He just had a sudden change of personality aye?

Okay...   here goes..  

 

Logan gets called the N word by a Celtic player, some believe him, some dont, I actually do for what its worth

Subsequently Logan clearly has a clear,  probably understandable dislike of Celtic and in matches afterwards between the clubs makes all sort of snidey gestures towards its players and fans and generally acts like an attention seeking fanny, Celtic fans, like me, respond on him acting this way by giving him some stick back, none of it to do with his skin colour but plenty to do with him acting like a dick, his utter meltdown at Celtic Park in May after his team actually fucking won the game being a prime example,  Logan continues to try and wind up Celtic fans during matches and on social media,  also alluding (wrongly) its about his skin colour,  which is laughably wrong when many of our best players at present and in the past have been black.

His cunty neddish behaviour continues and he continues to get stick for saud cunty neddy behaviour....etc etc

 

Hope that helps. 

[Bairnardo]

Okay...   here goes..  
 
Logan gets called the N word by a Celtic player, some believe him, some dont, I actually do for what its worth
Subsequently Logan clearly has a clear,  probably understandable dislike of Celtic and in matches afterwards between the clubs makes all sort of snidey gestures towards its players and fans and generally acts like an attention seeking fanny, Celtic fans, like me, respond on him acting this way by giving him some stick back, none of it to do with his skin colour but plenty to do with him acting like a dick, his utter meltdown at Celtic Park in May after his team actually fucking won the game being a prime example,  Logan continues to try and wind up Celtic fans during matches and on social media,  also alluding (wrongly) its about his skin colour,  which is laughably wrong when many of our best players at present and in the past have been black.
His cunty neddish behaviour continues and he continues to get stick for saud cunty neddy behaviour....etc etc
 
Hope that helps. 

Many of our best players are black.....

Superb.

[The OP]

13 minutes ago, Flybhoy said:

No one is saying that at all as you know fine well,  the 'acting like a fanny' refers to him acting like a fanny whenever the two clubs play, nothing to do with racial abuse,  reporting it or not. 

Maybe, just maybe Shay could concentrate on trying to help his team win against Celtic instead of constantly trying to wind up the opposition support,  the fact their recent win at CP was their first win over Celtic in 13 attempts would suggest maybe he should channel his energies into his game rather than acting like a prize fud.

There is no doubt El Hadji Diouf was racially abused by some cretin at Celtic Park one on of his visits. There is photographic evidence of this and it is shameful. Nonetheless, El Hadji Diouf's general behaviour whenever he played Celtic was still that of a fanny and worthy of booing. Neymar has reported being racially abused by Scotland supporters. Nonethless Neymar's general behaviour when he visits Scotland is that of a fanny and deserves booing. 

[williemillersmoustache]

[Rugster]

6 minutes ago, Flybhoy said:

many of our best players at present and in the past have been black.

[LiviLion]

3 minutes ago, The OP said:

No one took issue with it until Lustig confronted him tbf. I sit at the corner of the North and West stand and he started applauding the North stand to no reaction, then started applauding us to no reaction. It was when whatever your interpretation of what happened with Lustig happened that he got a reaction and started to get absolutely raging himself. My impression was Lustig said 'Your own fans are over there' then Logan said something back which to which Lustig took exception. They  squared up and Logan swung an arm. Logan then carries on pushing and shrugging off anyone who tries to speak to him. Boyata seems to say words to the effect of 'What are you all about' and gets rebuked and chucks the ball in response. It then looked like Boyata realised Logan's head had gone and tries to speak to him to calm him down as he is being ushered off the pitch.

So all the Celtic players in that clip are perfectly calm and not squaring up to anyone, and are in fact just trying to have a friendly word, got it.

 

2 minutes ago, Flybhoy said:

Okay...   here goes..  

 

Logan gets called the N word by a Celtic player, some believe him, some dont, I actually do for what its worth

Subsequently Logan clearly has a clear,  probably understandable dislike of Celtic and in matches afterwards between the clubs makes all sort of snidey gestures towards its players and fans and generally acts like an attention seeking fanny, Celtic fans, like me, respond on him acting this way by giving him some stick back, none of it to do with his skin colour but plenty to do with him acting like a dick, his utter meltdown at Celtic Park in May after his team actually fucking won the game being a prime example,  Logan continues to try and wind up Celtic fans during matches and on social media,  also alluding (wrongly) its about his skin colour,  which is laughably wrong when many of our best players at present and in the past have been black.

His cunty neddish behaviour continues and he continues to get stick for saud cunty neddy behaviour....etc etc

 

Hope that helps. 

[The OP]

 

3 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said:

Sorry, is your contention that we are all racists and no other sets of supporters contain racists?

1 minute ago, LiviLion said:

So all the Celtic players in that clip are perfectly calm and not squaring up to anyone, and are in fact just trying to have a friendly word, got it.

 

It's utterly astounding that you got that from what I said. Although they were all just doing the traditional handshake thing until Lustig confronted Logan

Edited July 10, 2018 by The OP

[The OP]

For the record, I never really boo anyone because a grown man standing going 'Booooooooo' seems odd to me. I will shout abuse if I feel it is warranted however, but I ensure it is not racist abuse. Stringer Bell is my favourite character on The Wire. 

[Greenlantern]

 
You sir and tbf, the wider Celtic family are having an absolute mare here.
Stop. Think. Don't write anything else racist. 

Wullie, I've always found you quite a reasonable and amusing poster.
Your judgment of the situation is unreasonably blinkered.
Your attempts at labelling everyone a racist that disagrees with your viewpoint is rather pathetic.

Like Logan, you've disappointedly let this whole thing define and consume you.

If i can't respond to your points above without you calling me a racist i'll drop it here.

[Dee Man]

28 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

Many of our best players are black.....

Superb.

It's true. It's just the same as no Celtic fans have ever uttered the words '***********' because Danny McGrain and Davie Provan were protestants. 

Eta: Should've known that would have been censored. It was a derogatory term said by Celtic fans that is similar to an orange coloured fruit born out of wedlock. 

Eta 2: I take it that Rangers fan doing the underarm monkey gesture to Sinclair (?) must have been photoshopped as Rangers fans have and have had black players in the past? 

Edited July 10, 2018 by Dee Man

[williemillersmoustache]

1 minute ago, Greenlantern said:

 

Wullie, I've always found you quite a reasonable and amusing poster.
Your judgment of the situation is unreasonably blinkered.
Your attempts at labelling everyone a racist that disagrees with your viewpoint is rather pathetic.

Like Logan, you've disappointedly let this whole thing define and consume you.

If i can't respond to your points above without you calling me a racist i'll drop it here.

 

Thanks GL, I'm a fan of yours and others on this thread too.

I haven't labelled "everyone that disagrees with [my] viewpoint" a racist. 

I've made it quite clear that there is a difference between racism and blaming the victim of racism and I fear that your otherwise self-aware self has fallen foul of that. Because Celtic. 
And yet, my judgement is "unreasonably blinkered" ? Right-oh. 

If you don't like that, then I suggest you read the guide to what counts as victim blaming and follow the handy traffic light system I set out above. 

 

25 minutes ago, Flybhoy said:

many of our best players at present and in the past have been black.

 

 

[Bohemian]

Logan seems like an utter fanny, Celtic fans can be utter Fannys, throw in Aberdeen fans who can be utter fannys....  Cuntfest

[OSP]

11 minutes ago, Bohemian said:

Logan seems like an utter fanny, Celtic fans can be utter Fannys, throw in Aberdeen fans who can be utter fannys....  Cuntfest

Most sensible post of the discussion so far...

[tree house tam]

16 minutes ago, Bohemian said:

Logan seems like an utter fanny, Celtic fans can be utter Fannys, throw in Aberdeen fans who can be utter fannys....  Cuntfest

I'd also add. f**k you all, c***s.

[Tommy Nooka]

56 minutes ago, The OP said:

For the record, I never really boo anyone because a grown man standing going 'Booooooooo' seems odd to me. I will shout abuse if I feel it is warranted however, but I ensure it is not racist abuse. Stringer Bell is my favourite character on The Wire. 

I prefer Marlo Stanfield portrayed by Jamie Hector who is also excellent in Bosch.

[williemillersmoustache]

Brendan Rogers probably laughed and said "he brought it on himself" when Bodie got killed.

Think about that.

[The OP]

11 minutes ago, Tommy Nooka said:

I prefer Marlo Stanfield portrayed by Jamie Hector who is also excellent in Bosch.

See I thought Stringer was more nuanced whereas Stanfield was a bit more of a one dimensional villain. 

I also preferred Bunk (black) to McNulty (tim). So, there's your racist.