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20 hours ago, Jives Miguel said:

What's your thoughts on leaving gifts etc.

Very, very rarely chip into these myself, I think they are a lot of fucking nonsense. Would only do it for someone I consider a friend. However I am conflicted about it. Does make me feel like a bit of a dick when someone brings a card round and insists you sign it. I don't think you should be singing and thus giving the impression that you chipped in. Another point of confliction is that when you leave, regardless of how much you insist, you'll be getting leaving gifts yourself

I'll contribute if they have a long 'ish' line of service or have contributed in a positive and professional way. But our turnover has been very high recently. And collections for all have been expected. Most that are leaving have been there less than a year. They get the card signed and that's it from me. It can prove expensive. 

Two others though had been there for a long time. One left after 21 years for another job (which shocked everyone! and another retired after 33 years in the job. Large collection for both. First wanted a get together where there was a large turnout. The person who retired wanted to leave quietly with no fuss, and their wishes were respected. Both  received some very nice gifts.  

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If someone is leaving it's usually to benefit themselves in some way.

My simple rule is I don't  contribute to any collections for people who are younger, better looking, richer (or have potential to be richer), happier, better dressed, have a better car, better house.

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56 minutes ago, atfccfc said:

I'll contribute if they have a long 'ish' line of service or have contributed in a positive and professional way. But our turnover has been very high recently. And collections for all have been expected. Most that are leaving have been there less than a year. They get the card signed and that's it from me. It can prove expensive. 

Two others though had been there for a long time. One left after 21 years for another job (which shocked everyone! and another retired after 33 years in the job. Large collection for both. First wanted a get together where there was a large turnout. The person who retired wanted to leave quietly with no fuss, and their wishes were respected. Both  received some very nice gifts.  

You should have seen what they got Pete Gibbons!

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Had a meeting with the Director of Institute yesterday. Amongst other things she was talking about the Prof. 

As well as his teaching he was hired to develop and deliver a new educational platform for us. He hasn't done it. But a few months ago the uni hired another prof to do the same thing, and this guy has been getting the job done, winning contracts, and so on. Done more in 3 months than the prof has since he arrived. 

So, the Prof's defence for not doing any of this for the last 2 years is that he is overworked with teaching. Hence all his recent messages to me, various Directors, the head of School and the Principal complaining about his workload.

I don't think he's getting much sympathy from his bosses. 

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I remember one of our managers leaving - really unpopular guy and his collection literally raised about a fiver. All the other managers had to chip in a tenner each to make it a reasonable amount.

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1 hour ago, scottsdad said:

Had a meeting with the Director of Institute yesterday. Amongst other things she was talking about the Prof. 

As well as his teaching he was hired to develop and deliver a new educational platform for us. He hasn't done it. But a few months ago the uni hired another prof to do the same thing, and this guy has been getting the job done, winning contracts, and so on. Done more in 3 months than the prof has since he arrived. 

So, the Prof's defence for not doing any of this for the last 2 years is that he is overworked with teaching. Hence all his recent messages to me, various Directors, the head of School and the Principal complaining about his workload.

I don't think he's getting much sympathy from his bosses. 

I'm sure the parents of non-Scottish students who are forking out serious money to have their progeny educated at your establishment will be thrilled to hear about this situation.

Your HR crew should be burned at the stake.

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Leaving gifts / events are weird, I'm never arsed about that sort of stuff, I'd usually just like to walk out the door and that's it. I once worked for a big distillery, where I got on with people, but I'm fully aware I was a c**t to people at times when they were pushing their luck, but when it came to leaving they handed me two bags of alcohol, a hefty Amazon voucher and they all stood there waiting on me to say a few words! I was stunned, it was weird as f**k and in the moment I made a bit of a cheeky comment that was clearly meant as a joke, but no one laughed and just looked awkward, some people even shuffled away at that point. I think I was escorted out the door after that. 

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7 minutes ago, thistledo said:

Leaving gifts / events are weird, I'm never arsed about that sort of stuff, I'd usually just like to walk out the door and that's it. I once worked for a big distillery, where I got on with people, but I'm fully aware I was a c**t to people at times when they were pushing their luck, but when it came to leaving they handed me two bags of alcohol, a hefty Amazon voucher and they all stood there waiting on me to say a few words! I was stunned, it was weird as f**k and in the moment I made a bit of a cheeky comment that was clearly meant as a joke, but no one laughed and just looked awkward, some people even shuffled away at that point. I think I was escorted out the door after that. 

C’mon man, you can’t leave us hanging like that! Let us know what you said? 
 

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8 hours ago, scottsdad said:

Had a meeting with the Director of Institute yesterday. Amongst other things she was talking about the Prof. 

As well as his teaching he was hired to develop and deliver a new educational platform for us. He hasn't done it. But a few months ago the uni hired another prof to do the same thing, and this guy has been getting the job done, winning contracts, and so on. Done more in 3 months than the prof has since he arrived. 

So, the Prof's defence for not doing any of this for the last 2 years is that he is overworked with teaching. Hence all his recent messages to me, various Directors, the head of School and the Principal complaining about his workload.

I don't think he's getting much sympathy from his bosses. 

Carefully distance…the Prof is taking on water and doesn’t even realize it.

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2 hours ago, thistledo said:

Leaving gifts / events are weird, I'm never arsed about that sort of stuff, I'd usually just like to walk out the door and that's it. I once worked for a big distillery, where I got on with people, but I'm fully aware I was a c**t to people at times when they were pushing their luck, but when it came to leaving they handed me two bags of alcohol, a hefty Amazon voucher and they all stood there waiting on me to say a few words! I was stunned, it was weird as f**k and in the moment I made a bit of a cheeky comment that was clearly meant as a joke, but no one laughed and just looked awkward, some people even shuffled away at that point. I think I was escorted out the door after that. 

Pretty much agree. I was lucky in that COVID and a minor medical matter combined to make it easy for me to bail quietly and without any bulls**t. Quiet word with some of the old hands, a youngster of two that I’d help train, and the f**k out of there.

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Remember colleagues are people. you need to be payed to associate be with and the feeling in reciprocated:    If you meet someone through work you actually like then normal friendship can happen.  Either way WTF is the point in a collection?

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My last job, was there for 11 years, nearly burnt myself out at times pulling them out of the shit to get them orders out, was off on occasions with stress. My leaving present?? A card. they had the audacity to invite me to their Xmas night last year, which I would have had to pay £30 towards. Was the same date as my current employers piss up, which cost me f**k all.

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The other week we had a digital card come round for someone leaving. They had been in post for 6 weeks. I opened the digital card, saw there was one signature on it and promptly deleted the email.

Bit weird. 
 

Anyway I normally sign a card (always Comic Sans on the digital cards) but don’t contribute any money whatsoever because on the whole, I’m a grippit c**t and people are mostly arseholes.

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I’m the same. I’m happy to sign a card getting passed around but I draw the line at actually giving someone money for leaving the job. Bit weird imo. 

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1 hour ago, Melanius Mullarkay said:

The other week we had a digital card come round for someone leaving. They had been in post for 6 weeks. I opened the digital card, saw there was one signature on it and promptly deleted the email.

Bit weird. 
 

Anyway I normally sign a card (always Comic Sans on the digital cards) but don’t contribute any money whatsoever because on the whole, I’m a grippit c**t and people are mostly arseholes.

Your best ever post, sir. I wholeheartedly concur.

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1 hour ago, Melanius Mullarkay said:

The other week we had a digital card come round for someone leaving. They had been in post for 6 weeks. I opened the digital card, saw there was one signature on it and promptly deleted the email.

Bit weird. 
 

Anyway I normally sign a card (always Comic Sans on the digital cards) but don’t contribute any money whatsoever because on the whole, I’m a grippit c**t and people are mostly arseholes.

"My Team: Aberdeen" 

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On 29/06/2023 at 11:48, Jives Miguel said:

What's your thoughts on leaving gifts etc.

Very, very rarely chip into these myself, I think they are a lot of fucking nonsense. Would only do it for someone I consider a friend. However I am conflicted about it. Does make me feel like a bit of a dick when someone brings a card round and insists you sign it. I don't think you should be singing and thus giving the impression that you chipped in. Another point of confliction is that when you leave, regardless of how much you insist, you'll be getting leaving gifts yourself

Depends on the person, how long they've been there and the job they do. 

In my current place I regularly avoid these. I was really angry one day a few months back to get an email looking for money for a collection to buy a leaving present for the head of the department. She's nice enough judging by how she spoke any time I've seen her in a Teams meeting though i have personally never met her or spoke on the phone with her but what can you buy somebody on £100k+ that they can't buy themselves?

I went off sick two weeks later 

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