Work colleagues

[HeWhoWalksBehindTheRows]

8 hours ago, D.A.F.C said:

 Listen, and understand. That DABaracus is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

 

There is no fate but what we make.

[NJ2]

(would never do sales; despise it).

(only one of which was sales).

Reality is you’ll just do what you’re told and take the money, same as the rest of us, right? Some of us are lucky enough not to despise it though I guess, makes the day pass a little quicker.

[ICTChris]

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with enjoying your work or devoting yourself to it. Lots of people enjoy responsibility and take pride in the work they do and can be defined by it to an extent.

Making someone work the day they’ve been told of the bereavement of a close personal friend isn’t good though. You need to treat people like human beings and give them some space for things like this. In my work people have been given time off when they’ve had news like this, absolutely right IMO.

[DA Baracus]

17 minutes ago, NJ2 said:

 

Reality is you’ll just do what you’re told and take the money, same as the rest of us, right? Some of us are lucky enough not to despise it though I guess, makes the day pass a little quicker.

 

The reality is I'd rather be on the dole than do sales. I'll never do it.

Fortunately no job I've had since 2003 has had any element of sales at all.

[NJ2]

The reality is I'd rather be on the dole than do sales. I'll never do it.
Fortunately no job I've had since 2003 has had any element of sales at all.

Fair enough. I’d have thought given you’ve done it before, you could again but guess the experience put you off sufficiently. I think I could just about do anything for work rather than the dole, probably more because the stigma attached.

[DA Baracus]

3 minutes ago, NJ2 said:

Fair enough. I’d have thought given you’ve done it before, you could again but guess the experience put you off sufficiently. I think I could just about do anything for work rather than the dole, probably more because the stigma attached.

Being on the dole is shit. I'd course try to get a job doing pretty much anything else than sales, but if it came down to a choice between dole and sales (exceptionally unlikely) then it would be the former.

[TheScarf]

Ooooft clearly has no mates.  Or his mates are pens.

Ooooft - 

[ICTChris]

The reality is I'd rather be on the dole than do sales. I'll never do it.
Fortunately no job I've had since 2003 has had any element of sales at all.

What don’t you like about sales?

[DA Baracus]

1 hour ago, ICTChris said:

 

What don’t you like about sales?

 

Everything.

 

I hate feeling like I need to pressure someone in to buying some shit they don’t want.

 

I hate pestering people.

 

I hate the environment sales creates.

 

I hate the bullshit folk talk about sales.

 

I hate the targets you are invariably set.

 

I hate the lack of morals that almost always creeps in.

 

I hate salespeople in the main as they tend to be total bellends.

[AsimButtHitsASix]

18 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Wouldnt it be a good idea to give the boy a few days sick leave or something?

He doesn't work the NHS. The security is ran by an outside firm. He took the Monday off but (I think) the security lads are on zero hour contracts. No work = no pay.

[Miguel Sanchez]

42 minutes ago, G_Man1985 said:

Tesco at this time of year is fun.
Usually have a heads gone moment once a week.

Let the game commence

Staff or customers?

[Jaggy Snake]

57 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

Everything.

I hate feeling like I need to pressure someone in to buying some shit they don’t want.

I hate pestering people.

I hate the environment sales creates.

I hate the bullshit folk talk about sales.

I hate the targets you are invariably set.

I hate the lack of morals that almost always creeps in.

I hate salespeople in the main as they tend to be total bellends.

That's only one type of sales though.

Most internal sales jobs are very different to that. I work in (for want of a better term) technical sales. People phone me for help selecting the right product, and I deal with very few of your stereotypical sales-driven type people. It's very different to the cold calling/lead generation nonsense.

Edited November 1, 2018 by Jaggy Snake

[Melanius Mullarkey]

27 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

Staff or customers?

Given the staff in Tesco these days, customers have every right to have a heads gone now and again.

[Sergeant Wilson]

6 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

Everything.

 

I hate feeling like I need to pressure someone in to buying some shit they don’t want.

 

I hate pestering people.

 

I hate the environment sales creates.

 

I hate the bullshit folk talk about sales.

 

I hate the targets you are invariably set.

 

I hate the lack of morals that almost always creeps in.

 

I hate salespeople in the main as they tend to be total bellends.

But apart from that...

Edited November 1, 2018 by Sergeant Wilson

[Fullerene]

2 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

Everything.

I hate feeling like I need to pressure someone in to buying some shit they don’t want.

I hate pestering people.

I hate the environment sales creates.

I hate the bullshit folk talk about sales.

I hate the targets you are invariably set.

I hate the lack of morals that almost always creeps in.

I hate salespeople in the main as they tend to be total bellends.

.. but "Glen Garry Glen Ross" is your favourite film and "California Dreaming" by Lawrence Donegan is your favourite book!  Just joking

If sales is simply nudging things along - persuading someone to buy something they were probably going to buy anyway, then your job is simply removing hesitation and it is fine.

If it is about selling somebody something they don't actually want but they just want you out of their lives forever - then yes I can see your point.

I am particular amused by the "Unsale" - i.e. when you were about to buy something but the salesperson is so obnoxious - you decide not to.  I think these people should get a negative commission when that happens.

Edited November 1, 2018 by Fullerene

[Miguel Sanchez]

37 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

But apart rom that...

I think he'd enjoy working in computers.

[ONeils4Oyarder]

17 hours ago, Oooooft said:

 

 

Ffs its not family.

 

Take the rest of the day off aye, but after that use holidays if he wants more time.

 

Be good of the boss to approve them at short notice.

I'm not the emotional type at all, but I watched my mate die recently and its the worst I've felt in my life. My grandparents have all died and I've been effected, aye, but nothing to the extent that I felt this time, and still do. Maybe at the age of 37, I've lead a sheltered life, or maybe its the fact that I witnessed it happening, or that a young family has been left without a dad...or a combination of everything, but its on my mind, each and every day without fail. It happened in the evening and I went to work the next day, and did until the funeral, I took that off and the following day, and my work never questioned me at all as they had known the circumstances. 

 

Each situation is different, and just because the person involved isnt blood related, doesnt necessarily make it any less traumatic.

[Alert Mongoose]

Email received advising staff that there will be learning lunches (ie during your lunch hour) soon where you are invited to bring your own pack lunch and watch the presentations from the London office (as they won't be doing any in Scotland) from various Asset Owners.  I honestly think senior management are so detached from reality they think people will actually turn up to these. I guarantee that after a few weeks there will be another email expressing disappointment at the turnout. 

[Boghead ranter]

2 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:

Email received advising staff that there will be learning lunches (ie during your lunch hour) soon where you are invited to bring your own pack lunch and watch the presentations from the London office (as they won't be doing any in Scotland) from various Asset Owners.  I honestly think senior management are so detached from reality they think people will actually turn up to these. I guarantee that after a few weeks there will be another email expressing disappointment at the turnout. 

Similar thing was tried in our place some time back.

Nobody went/logged on.

[NJ2]

Email received advising staff that there will be learning lunches (ie during your lunch hour) soon where you are invited to bring your own pack lunch and watch the presentations from the London office (as they won't be doing any in Scotland) from various Asset Owners.  I honestly think senior management are so detached from reality they think people will actually turn up to these. I guarantee that after a few weeks there will be another email expressing disappointment at the turnout. 

Had a very similar argument at work recently. Someone had set something up from 12-1:45, no lunch provided but bring your own by all means. Asked why I wasn’t going, I said it’s over lunch time why not make through the day to which he said it’s so more people can attend...surely you’d be better doing it when people aren’t out for lunch then mate, no?