forameus Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, IggyStooge said: To be fair, the Levein era was just a disaster in it's entirety. Let's wildly celebrate a 97th minute winner against Liechtenstein. Yay. That was actually the high point; watching Levein groping around for his specs Velma Dinkley-style. I was curious so looked at the results over his reign to see if that was indeed the highlight. It was. You could maybe say the Spain game where we pushed them close at Hampden was one, but given we got beat anyway that would be generous. So yeah. A 97th minute winner against Liechtenstein was the highlight of Craig Levein's reign. Jesus wept. 3 March 2010 Hampden Park, Glasgow (H) Czech Republic 1–0 Friendly Scott Brown 26,530 [3] 11 August 2010 Rasunda Stadion, Solna (A) Sweden 0–3 Friendly 25,249 [3] 3 September 2010 Darius and Girėnas Stadium, Kaunas (A) Lithuania 0–0 Euro 2012 qualifying 6,539 [3] 7 September 2010 Hampden Park, Glasgow (H) Liechtenstein 2–1 Euro 2012 qualifying Kenny Miller, Stephen McManus 37,050 [3] 8 October 2010 Synot Tip Arena, Prague (A) Czech Republic 0–1 Euro 2012 qualifying 16,800 [3] 12 October 2010 Hampden Park, Glasgow (H) Spain 2–3 Euro 2012 qualifying Steven Naismith, Own goal 51,322 [3] 16 November 2010 Pittodrie Stadium, Aberdeen (H) Faroe Islands 3–0 Friendly Danny Wilson, Kris Commons, Jamie Mackie 10,873 [3] 9 February 2011 Aviva Stadium, Dublin (N) Northern Ireland 3–0 Nations Cup Kenny Miller, James McArthur, Kris Commons 18,742 [4] 27 March 2011 Emirates Stadium, London (N) Brazil 0–2 Friendly 53,087 [4] 25 May 2011 Aviva Stadium, Dublin (N) Wales 3–1 Nations Cup James Morrison, Kenny Miller, Christophe Berra 3,951 [4] 29 May 2011 Aviva Stadium, Dublin (A) Republic of Ireland 0–1 Nations Cup 17,694 [4] 10 August 2011 Hampden Park, Glasgow (H) Denmark 2–1 Friendly Own goal, Robert Snodgrass 17,582 [4] 3 September 2011 Hampden Park, Glasgow (H) Czech Republic 2–2 Euro 2012 qualifying Kenny Miller, Darren Fletcher 51,457 [4] 6 September 2011 Hampden Park, Glasgow (H) Lithuania 1–0 Euro 2012 qualifying Steven Naismith 34,071 [4] 8 October 2011 Rheinpark Stadion, Vaduz (A) Liechtenstein 1–0 Euro 2012 qualifying Craig Mackail-Smith 5,636 [4] 11 October 2011 Estadio José Rico Pérez, Alicante (A) Spain 1–3 Euro 2012 qualifying David Goodwillie 24,896 [4] 11 November 2011 Antonis Papadopoulos Stadium, Larnaca (A) Cyprus 2–1 Friendly Kenny Miller, Jamie Mackie 1,360 [4] 29 February 2012 Bonifika Stadium, Koper (A) Slovenia 1–1 Friendly Christophe Berra 3,983 [5] 26 May 2012 EverBank Field, Jacksonville (A) United States 1–5 Friendly Own goal 44,438 [5] 15 August 2012 Easter Road, Edinburgh (H) Australia 3–1 Friendly Jordan Rhodes, Own goal, Ross McCormack 11,110 [5] 8 September 2012 Hampden Park, Glasgow (H) Serbia 0–0 World Cup qualification 47,369 [5] 11 September 2012 Hampden Park, Glasgow (H) Macedonia 1–1 World Cup qualification Kenny Miller 32,430 [5] 12 October 2012 Cardiff City Stadium, Cardiff (A) Wales 1–2 World Cup qualification James Morrison 23,249 [5] 16 October 2012 Stade Roi Baudouin, Brussels (A) Belgium 0–2 World Cup qualification 44,132 [5] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof! Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 2 hours ago, DAVIDB69 said: Who are our good quality attacking players ? would say Armstrong , but not sure he will start, after that I am struggling. I expect the team to be full of unfit players not getting club games Griffiths, Armstrong, Phillips, Fraser, Forrest all capable especially away from home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microdave Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 The last time we got 6 points from a double header was 10 years ago when we beat Lithuania (3-1) and France (1-0). I have the fear that we'll slip up tonight to keep that record intact. And it crossed my mind earlier that we need to win all four to finish 2nd (and even then it's not guaranteed), the last time we did that was the Euro2008 campaign too. Faroes (2-0), Lithuania (3-1), France (1-0) and Ukraine (3-1) before Georgia brought it to an end. I thought we'd blown it after the draw at Hampden last year and nothing has changed my mind yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Once again Strachan labels a clearly must-win game as "not must-win". "You can't tell me 10 points might not be enough!" Aye, I can Gordon; it won't be. Like everyone else, I badly want us to win tonight but I really don't think we will. 1-0 defeat or 1-1 draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWolfe Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Out of interest, how many points did people think we would have at this point? Before the campaign I had us on 9 points after 6 games. Losing away to Slovakia and both games against England and winning the other 3. So basically we are 1 point worse off than I thought we would be. These 4 games were always going to be make or break imo. Last 2 performances have been decent so I'm quietly optimistic that we will win the next 3 and it'll go down to the final night in Slovenia to decide our fate. ETA: 2-0 win tonight, Griffiths and Armstrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Against Slovenia we were good in the first half and shite in the second. Were rather lucky to get the winner in the end but Slovenia were very negative for some reason. We were dreadful against England other than two superb Griffiths free-kicks. It was an awful game of football until the mind-boggling last five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanky_ffc Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Hopefully we can win this 'must-win' which isn't actually a 'must-win'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 minute ago, lanky_ffc said: Hopefully we can win this 'must-win' which isn't actually a 'must-win'. If we can't beat Lithuania away then don't fancy our chances in Slovenia or at home to Slovakia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blootoon87 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Next four I predict we scrape a win tonight, comfortable win on Mon, draw with Slovakia then if we somehow still have a chance of scraping second we'll bottle it away to Slovenia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Blootoon87 said: Next four I predict we scrape a win tonight, comfortable win on Mon, draw with Slovakia then if we somehow still have a chance of scraping second we'll bottle it away to Slovenia. Think a draw against Slovakia pretty much ends it, although that might only be if they beat Slovenia tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Has Strachan forgotten that there are 3 teams above Scotland, 2 of which are playing and beating Malta in the last 4 games, which keeps Scotland at arms length? Scotland need 12 points out of 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 So we win all games. No problem :-) Nae fucking bother. Let's get into these wannabee Russian, hearts-supporting arseholes. There's literally nothing else I know about Lithuania. What have they got? Coal mines? We've got fucking coal mines. We're basically playing a selection of the Ayrshire and fife junior leagues. Into them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 17 minutes ago, TheScarf said: Has Strachan forgotten that there are 3 teams above Scotland, 2 of which are playing and beating Malta in the last 4 games, which keeps Scotland at arms length? Scotland need 12 points out of 12. Not the whole story though. We're the only team that's played England twice, both Slovenia and Slovakia have to play them. We all have to play Malta. But yeah, we do need 12 points. Not sure there's any situation where even 10 would be enough barring something ridiculous like Malta winning games, and even then it'd probably put us as the 9th best 2nd place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, forameus said: Not the whole story though. We're the only team that's played England twice, both Slovenia and Slovakia have to play them. We all have to play Malta. But yeah, we do need 12 points. Not sure there's any situation where even 10 would be enough barring something ridiculous like Malta winning games, and even then it'd probably put us as the 9th best 2nd place. Scotland still have to better both the Slo's results for the rest of the campaign to not only catch them, but overtake them. The fact that Slovakia still have to play Malta at home, and Slovenia playing Lithuania at home, makes it needing a mental chain of results for us to qualify, should we not win tonight like you say. Not winning tonight means Scotland will probably have to claw back a 4 and a 5 point deficit with only 9 points available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailend-chapper Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 10 points would be enough if Slovenia and Slovakia draw tonight and England win all their remaining games. If we win next 3 then with those results we could be second going into last game away to Slovenia where a draw would do. Not expecting this to happen mind you I reckon we will win tonight and Monday. And fail to win either of our last two games. Strachan saying that this isn't must win is a total shambles. Get the teams backs up by saying its a do or die game, get the nation behind the team again by bigging up every game as a must win. We want to see a bit of grit and fight not a half arsed attempt as the gaffer says id doesna really matter!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Never mind that even if 10 points was enough for 2nd, there's no guarantee we wouldn't be the worst 2nd placed side and not even get a play-off. Which, tbf, is about as Scottish a thing as it's possible to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Strachan has given up on the job and is just trolling everyone now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, sjc said: Strachan has given up on the job and is just trolling everyone now. He'll be gone soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I wish people would stop greeting about this must win stuff. Jesus fucking Christ. McGhee has already said everyone already knows that they need to take all points available, said it just the other day. I'm sure we will be playing for a draw tonight.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWolfe Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Denmark and Montenegro dropping points tonight might help us if we were to get 10 points from 12 but we should be going all out for the 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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