Dons_1988 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/lee-johnson-reckons-hibs-transfer-27239627.amp We had a double session on Friday and a lot of mileage in the legs. You can see the quality Le Fondre’s got in terms of the link play and his touch. His movement is excellent, he’s a bit like Sergio Aguero for us. He brings others into play and scores goals. He’s got great experience and he’ll help people through games. Lee Johnson vs Brendan Rodger’s bullshit bingo will be a good laugh this season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 If Partick didnt want relegated, they should simply have avoided being bottom of the league when the season ended. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: You can see the quality Le Fondre’s got in terms of the link play and his touch. His movement is excellent, he’s a bit like Sergio Aguero for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 15 hours ago, Hawkeye the Gnu said: Plastic Whistle. What do you think 'SPFL' stands for? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 14 hours ago, Squonk said: To be fair to Partick Thistle, they had a genuine grievance in that if they'd played the same number of games as their counterparts they might not have been bottom of the division. They were treated abysmally. Absolutely, covid was just a conspiracy to relegate Hearts, Partick and Stranraer, just in the off chance they managed to avoid relegation playing the final 8 games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 16 hours ago, LiviLion said: Who? Police Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarHibee Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 2 hours ago, LIVIFOREVER said: Absolutely, covid was just a conspiracy to relegate Hearts, Partick and Stranraer, just in the off chance they managed to avoid relegation playing the final 8 games. And the jabs were used to brainwash us all into going along with it. It's all so clear now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, StellarHibee said: And the JAGS were used to brainwash us all into going along with it. It's all so clear now. FTFY 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 23 hours ago, Squonk said: To be fair to Partick Thistle, they had a genuine grievance in that if they'd played the same number of games as their counterparts they might not have been bottom of the division. They were treated abysmally. So what would have been an appropriate solution, given the circumstances in play at the time? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buchan30 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: So what would have been an appropriate solution, given the circumstances in play at the time? Most appropriate solution? Relegate hearts. The two managers should have played the game in hand on FM20 online. Edited July 3, 2023 by buchan30 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 11 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: So what would have been an appropriate solution, given the circumstances in play at the time? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squonk Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: So what would have been an appropriate solution, given the circumstances in play at the time? In my defence, if there is one, my comment was made late on a Saturday night under the affluence of incohol. My main point remains valid, IMO, in that Partick Thistle were more adversely affected than any other club. I get that the decision was supposedly made for the greater good (ie self-preservation, or at best indifference, by those not relegated), that points per game was used, and that the subject has been done to death. I nevertheless wonder what would've happened if the 2019/20 Scottish Cup competition had been cancelled due to the pandemic prior to the quarter-finals, in the same way the league programme was curtailed around the same time. Would the powers that be have declared that all eight quarter-finalists had won the cup, or maybe concocted rules for a ballot to award it to the club with the most votes, or would the cup competition simply be cancelled due to being incomplete? Edited July 3, 2023 by Squonk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Squonk said: My main point remains valid, IMO, in that Partick Thistle were more adversely affected than any other club. They were? More than Hearts and Stranraer? More than Inverness, Dundee, Ayr, Falkirk, Airdrie, Montrose, Edinburgh City, Elgin, Cowdenbeath, Kelty and Brora? How so? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 21 minutes ago, Squonk said: I nevertheless wonder what would've happened if the 2019/20 Scottish Cup competition had been cancelled due to the pandemic prior to the quarter-finals, in the same way the league programme was curtailed around the same time. Would the powers that be have declared that all eight quarter-finalists had won the cup, or maybe concocted rules for a ballot to award it to the club with the most votes, or would the cup competition simply be cancelled due to being incomplete? Why would all 8 quarter-finalists have been in contention? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Squonk said: In my defence, if there is one, my comment was made late on a Saturday night under the affluence of incohol. My main point remains valid, IMO, in that Partick Thistle were more adversely affected than any other club. I get that the decision was supposedly made for the greater good (ie self-preservation, or at best indifference, by those not relegated), that points per game was used, and that the subject has been done to death. I nevertheless wonder what would've happened if the 2019/20 Scottish Cup competition had been cancelled due to the pandemic prior to the quarter-finals, in the same way the league programme was curtailed around the same time. Would the powers that be have declared that all eight quarter-finalists had won the cup, or maybe concocted rules for a ballot to award it to the club with the most votes, or would the cup competition simply be cancelled due to being incomplete? Very little sense evident here. How were Patrick Thistle more adversely affected than the other relegated clubs? It's simply that the margin for them was very close. I think the fact that unusually big clubs were relegated from both the Premiership and the Championship, firmly establishes that nothing corrupt was playing a part. Are you advocating that they should simply have scrapped the competitions for the year? It's a legitimate enough view I suppose, but allowing spoils to be divided after so much of the season had been played, seems more sensible. Were there not contractual reasons why some notion of 'completion' was required too? The fact that the Cup was in fact belatedly completed, I think renders your other musings redundant. Nobody will claim the resolution was ideal, but I really do think it was the best available one. Of course Thistle were unlucky, and my team was bloody fortunate. That doesn't make the decision wrong though, or their treatment "abysmal". Their treatment was instead appropriate in the highly unusual circumstances of the time. Edited July 3, 2023 by Monkey Tennis 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jacky1990 Posted July 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2023 The most tin pot thing here is Thistle and Hearts fans continuing to bring up this pish three years later given that both teams bounced straight back and are now in a much better position on the pitch than they were at the time. The pishest team in a league at the end of the season deserve to be relegated. Thistle, Hearts and Stranraer were the pishest teams in their respective leagues when the season was ended. Never understood the big hoo-ha about the decision. Everyone needs to move the f**k on. 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarto Mutiny Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 On 02/07/2023 at 12:59, RandomGuy. said: If Partick didnt want relegated, they should simply have avoided being bottom of the league when the season ended. They could have just beaten Dundee United in the last pre Covid game. Instead, they conceded a goal to Dillon Powers and went down. Oh well, whatever, never mind 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 7 hours ago, Squonk said: In my defence, if there is one, my comment was made late on a Saturday night under the affluence of incohol. My main point remains valid, IMO, in that Partick Thistle were more adversely affected than any other club. I get that the decision was supposedly made for the greater good (ie self-preservation, or at best indifference, by those not relegated), that points per game was used, and that the subject has been done to death. I nevertheless wonder what would've happened if the 2019/20 Scottish Cup competition had been cancelled due to the pandemic prior to the quarter-finals, in the same way the league programme was curtailed around the same time. Would the powers that be have declared that all eight quarter-finalists had won the cup, or maybe concocted rules for a ballot to award it to the club with the most votes, or would the cup competition simply be cancelled due to being incomplete? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 I remember initially having a fair bit of sympathy for the affected clubs in that whole scenario (even hearts), and my first instinct was it would be unfair to relegate them. Then as the story unfolds and the alternatives were explored it became obvious quite quickly that the points per game scenario was the only feasible option. All talk of reconstruction, whether it was temporary or permanent, would have been madness. So yes, it was very unfortunate and even unfair but it was the least worst option. What made it hilarious was the very public and sustained meltdown from all directly involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: I remember initially having a fair bit of sympathy for the affected clubs in that whole scenario (even hearts), and my first instinct was it would be unfair to relegate them. Then as the story unfolds and the alternatives were explored it became obvious quite quickly that the points per game scenario was the only feasible option. All talk of reconstruction, whether it was temporary or permanent, would have been madness. So yes, it was very unfortunate and even unfair but it was the least worst option. What made it hilarious was the very public and sustained meltdown from all directly involved. Tom English really unravelled himself with this whole mess. Nailing himself to that hilarious smoking gun dossier that came to nothing and being a mouth piece for anything Anne Budge was trying to throw together. In the end bizarrely Doncaster did quite well on sportsound explaining why all the other proposals weren't feasible and the panel just kept repeating themselves with the same stupid questions as they as usual had done f**k all research. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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