No_Problemo Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Bowl-of-chilli said: Was he born and raised in Ireland? Is he Irish? I think you need to step away and have a think about the intricacies of nationality. Where you are born and raised isn’t always that relevant. If he feels Irish, then yes he is Irish. Edited August 20, 2023 by No_Problemo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowl-of-chilli Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, No_Problemo said: If he feels Irish, then yes he is Irish. Jesus f**k. People of the world in 2023, in a nutshell. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Just now, No_Problemo said: I think you need to step away and have a think about the intricacies of nationality. Where you are born and raised isn’t always that relevant. If he feels Irish, then yes he is Irish. True. I was born in England, but sure as f**k do not call myself English. Didn't stop my Papa from calling me a "Sassenach b*****d" for putting sugar in my porridge though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Terrace Gazza Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said: True. I was born in England, but sure as f**k do not call myself English. Didn't stop my Papa from calling me a "Sassenach b*****d" for putting sugar in my porridge though. Sugar should always be put in porridge 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Bowl-of-chilli said: Jesus f**k. People of the world in 2023, in a nutshell. Yes, because he woke up one day without any link to Ireland and randomly decided he was Irish. I take back the child thing, it’s very much old man yelling at cloud category now. 1 minute ago, Richey Edwards said: True. I was born in England, but sure as f**k do not call myself English. Didn't stop my Papa from calling me a "Sassenach b*****d" for putting sugar in my porridge though. Exactly - no one has the right to tell someone else what nationality they are. Surely people should know by now that nationality is quite a complex thing for lots of people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
United1973 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bowl-of-chilli said: Jesus f**k. People of the world in 2023, in a nutshell. Do you support Scotland? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Just now, North Terrace Gazza said: Sugar should always be put in porridge ^Sassenach b*****d. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bowl-of-chilli said: Was he born and raised in Ireland? Is he Irish? No. According to the rules of international football, yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, No_Problemo said: Yes, because he woke up one day without any link to Ireland and randomly decided he was Irish. I take back the child thing, it’s very much old man yelling at cloud category now. Not a word about Musonda you'll notice. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share Posted August 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, itzdrk said: Not a word about Musonda you'll notice. There’s a massive list of players who don’t represent the country of their birth. Either through ability or what country they choose the affiliate with. Aiden McGeady was more than good enough to represent Scotland at youth level but we mucked about whereas Ireland made him feel wanted. He also has actual familial links to Ireland. Think someone’s WiFi is needing cut off so he can go for a lie down. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Absolutely desperate for us to sign James McCarthy now tbh. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superhursty7 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Bowl-of-chilli said: Was he born and raised in Ireland? Is he Irish? Che Evens, Dykes, McTominny, kieran tierney, Angus Gunn just 4 mainstays of the current Scotland team not born in Scotland, so what's your point? Edited August 20, 2023 by Superhursy7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrunitedfw Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Aww ffs, not the Aidan McGeady debate again 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share Posted August 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, No_Problemo said: Absolutely desperate for us to sign James McCarthy now tbh. Always rated him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcal Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) I'm Scottish of Irish family heritage (grandparents), so the same situation as McGeady, I think. Although I'm proud of my heritage, I personally don't consider myself Irish - but some of my family members, cousins and such, have always had a stronger feeling of Irish nationality. They spent a lot more time there as kids and felt a connection to the place and culture that I did not. If any of them had chosen to represent Ireland in some capacity I simply cannot understand why someone could take issue with it. Just as no one would really take issue in any other circumstance. Notice that this conversation never materialises when talking about any other countries or nationalities. The only reason some gammons in Scotland get so worked up about it is because it's Ireland. A clear representation of the same sad undercurrent in Scottish society. Edited August 20, 2023 by AuAl 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, AuAl said: I'm Scottish of Irish family heritage (grandparents), so the same situation as McGeady, I think. Although I'm proud of my heritage, I personally don't consider myself Irish - but some of my family members, cousins and such, have always had a stronger feeling of Irish nationality. They spent a lot more time there as kids and felt a connection to the place and culture that I did not. If any of them had chosen to represent Ireland in some capacity I simply cannot understand why someone could take issue with it. Just as no one would really take issue in any other circumstance. Notice that this conversation never materialises when talking about any other countries or nationalities. The only reason some gammons in Scotland get so worked up about it is because it's Ireland. A clear representation of the same sad undercurrent in Scottish society. This - excellent post and obviously articulated in a way I’m not able to in terms of the personal nature of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryMc93 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 People might want to read why Scotland wouldn't select McGeady in the first place at schoolboy level at the same time as Ireland were willing. As for McCarthy, does it really surprise people that despite playing for Hamilton's first team he'd be overlooked by Scotland youth managers because he didn't play for either of the Old Firm. Probably says more about the integrity of both that they stuck with Ireland throughout rather the likes of Declan Rice or numerous ex Scotland youths that switch to England as soon as any interest is shown. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 54 minutes ago, BukyOHare said: You're too angry about this. That’s at least 2 cranial detachments from them since McGeady signed. We must be looking good for double figures before the season is out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHonestman1910 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Tbf McGeady would've been playing under the Burley/Levin days and I wouldn't wish any footballer that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peil Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Imagine someone came out with this pish about a player of South Asian descent playing for his grandparents cricket team. It'd be called out for what it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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