theesel1994 Posted May 23, 2018 Posted May 23, 2018 Dunipace are leaving the West Region. ? clubs are leaving the East Region. Inverness City are taking a year out. I don't know of any that are joining. So........what's the numbers for next season?
Hillonearth Posted May 23, 2018 Posted May 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, theesel1994 said: Dunipace are leaving the West Region. ? clubs are leaving the East Region. Inverness City are taking a year out. I don't know of any that are joining. So........what's the numbers for next season? You can subtract Lewis United for sure - they've folded. Rumours (TBC) that Newburgh Thistle and Spey Valley United are away as well. Maybe down as much as 20+ on the 160-odd that started last season.
Guest svejk Posted May 23, 2018 Posted May 23, 2018 Heard a rumour tonight that Stonehouse Violet may be returning. No idea of its veracity.
GordonS Posted May 23, 2018 Posted May 23, 2018 24 minutes ago, Hillonearth said: Maybe down as much as 20+ on the 160-odd that started last season. I think this season it was 60 east, 64 west and 34 north, for a total of 158.
theesel1994 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Posted May 23, 2018 There won't be many games in the first round of the Scottish. Are Bonnyrigg one of those clubs leaving? What happens to the East Regions spot in the Senior Scottish Cup if they win the League? Does it go to the runners up? That isn't fair to the clubs finishing runners up in the West and North. Or isn't it used?
GordonS Posted May 23, 2018 Posted May 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, theesel1994 said: There won't be many games in the first round of the Scottish. Are Bonnyrigg one of those clubs leaving? What happens to the East Regions spot in the Senior Scottish Cup if they win the League? Does it go to the runners up? That isn't fair to the clubs finishing runners up in the West and North. Or isn't it used? Pretty sure they take it with them. Kelty used theirs this season to lose to their near-nemesis, LTHV, 1-0 in Preliminary Round 1. The north spot wasn't used this season and won't be next season, because the league was won by Banks O'Dee who are licensed anyway.
ShrimpLok Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 6 hours ago, theesel1994 said: There won't be many games in the first round of the Scottish. Are Bonnyrigg one of those clubs leaving? What happens to the East Regions spot in the Senior Scottish Cup if they win the League? Does it go to the runners up? That isn't fair to the clubs finishing runners up in the West and North. Or isn't it used? I think provisionally there are 47 East, 63 West and 32 North so you’d only have 14 ties in the first round of the Scottish. If Newburgh and Speyside folded and a couple more East teams left for EOS then it could easily be single figures for first round ties.
jimbaxters Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 3 hours ago, ShrimpLok said: I think provisionally there are 47 East, 63 West and 32 North so you’d only have 14 ties in the first round of the Scottish. If Newburgh and Speyside folded and a couple more East teams left for EOS then it could easily be single figures for first round ties. It’s kind of a provisional round anyway so it’s no big change. If it went below the 128 mark, then it would be significant with one round less.
Tutankhamen Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 So the East Region is now three leagues instead of four?
clickclick Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 According to the tables, 139 in total barring any other changes. Includes Clydebank who are leaving in 2019.
kenny131 Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 4 hours ago, jimbaxters said: It’s kind of a provisional round anyway so it’s no big change. If it went below the 128 mark, then it would be significant with one round less. The big change is so many bigger east teams leaving the juniors, this weekends final will be the last credible winner in my opinion. With the west teams not taking matters into there own hands I honestly fear for the future of the west juniors teams having the SJFA negotiating on there behalf it will go 1 way they will keep it as it is. The outcome will be that scottish cup and league winners will no longer get a pop at the big scottish as those places will get eaten up with teams who have joined the pyramid and got licensed.
santheman Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 16 hours ago, svejk said: Heard a rumour tonight that Stonehouse Violet may be returning. No idea of its veracity. Machan Amateurs apparently taking on their mantle.
Jason King Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 Didn't they fold the 2nd time as they had no support owing to having no local players? Good to see them back if true, brings it back to 4x16 as well which is nice.
santheman Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 20 minutes ago, Jason King said: Didn't they fold the 2nd time as they had no support owing to having no local players? Good to see them back if true, brings it back to 4x16 as well which is nice. Correct. Just to be rubber stamped at AGM so I'm reliably informed. Only fly in the ointment is they want to use Tileworks Park which means a groundshare arrangement with Royal Albert( as if the fixtures aren't complicated enough)
Khufu2 Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 3 hours ago, kenny131 said: The big change is so many bigger east teams leaving the juniors, this weekends final will be the last credible winner in my opinion. Since it's a decade since an East team won the Cup I think yet another winner from the west will remain very credible.
Talbot 78 Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 The big change is so many bigger east teams leaving the juniors, this weekends final will be the last credible winner in my opinion. With the west teams not taking matters into there own hands I honestly fear for the future of the west juniors teams having the SJFA negotiating on there behalf it will go 1 way they will keep it as it is. The outcome will be that scottish cup and league winners will no longer get a pop at the big scottish as those places will get eaten up with teams who have joined the pyramid and got licensed. Good point. Also think the east teams have nowt to lose as their leagues are not as strong as in the west
kenny131 Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 3 hours ago, Khufu2 said: Since it's a decade since an East team won the Cup I think yet another winner from the west will remain very credible. Makes no difference the cup will be poorer without the big east teams simple as that we already have a west cup.
Tutankhamen Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 On 24 May 2018 at 21:13, kenny131 said: Makes no difference the cup will be poorer without the big east teams simple as that we already have a west cup. Who cares?
cmontheloknow Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 Bonnyrigg, Kelty, Musselburgh have all been in latter stages or finals in very recent memory, and Camelon had some Junior Cup finals (winning one) in the 90s. These clubs leaving have weakened the East's contribution to the SJC considerably. *If* Linlithgow and Bo'ness were to follow in due course, it would be compounded.
kenny131 Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 22 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said: Bonnyrigg, Kelty, Musselburgh have all been in latter stages or finals in very recent memory, and Camelon had some Junior Cup finals (winning one) in the 90s. These clubs leaving have weakened the East's contribution to the SJC considerably. *If* Linlithgow and Bo'ness were to follow in due course, it would be compounded. I really thought pollok would be the 1s to show the way in the west, out all the junior clubs east and west I think pollok would have progressed further than anyone the potential at your club is huge and could easily seen you in the spfl pushing for the championship over time.
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