ICTChris Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I read an article a few years ago by Nassim Taleb and a co-author about fragility in political systems. The article argued that countries that may seem politically chaotic, like Lebanon (post Civil war) or Italy, are actually better placed to withstand disorder whereas stable countries, like Syria who had the same system of government and rulers for decades, are more vulnerable as they don’t have any ‘give’ they are stable but rigid and brittle, a little pressure and they shatter.Could the same be said for political parties? I don’t think there’s been a more disciplined political party than the SNP since 2007 in modern British politics. I’m pretty certain that the only MSPs who ever opposed party policy in that time were the 2 or 3 who opposed the changes on membership of NATO and they were deselected. Did any of the 56 MPs between 2015-2017 ever dissent in any way? Maybe this rigidity has caused the SNP to become brittle and a vicious personal fight could be the worst case scenario. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 What’s this with Jo Cherry then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I read an article a few years ago by Nassim Taleb and a co-author about fragility in political systems. The article argued that countries that may seem politically chaotic, like Lebanon (post Civil war) or Italy, are actually better placed to withstand disorder whereas stable countries, like Syria who had the same system of government and rulers for decades, are more vulnerable as they don’t have any ‘give’ they are stable but rigid and brittle, a little pressure and they shatter.Could the same be said for political parties? I don’t think there’s been a more disciplined political party than the SNP since 2007 in modern British politics. I’m pretty certain that the only MSPs who ever opposed party policy in that time were the 2 or 3 who opposed the changes on membership of NATO and they were deselected. Did any of the 56 MPs between 2015-2017 ever dissent in any way? Maybe this rigidity has caused the SNP to become brittle and a vicious personal fight could be the worst case scenario.Nassim Taleb said the Lebanese weren’t real Arabs. He’s so class. Galaxy brain level intellect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Nassim Taleb said the Lebanese weren’t real Arabs. He’s so class. Galaxy brain level intellect. Was he not arguing that the language spoken in Lebanon wasn't really Arabic? Bit pedantic though, like claiming Scots speakers don't speak English. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Nassim Taleb said the Lebanese weren’t real Arabs. He’s so class. Galaxy brain level intellect. I think there’s a school of thought that some Lebanese are descended from Phonecians and genetic studies have shown differences. I don’t know much about anything like that though.I believe NNT was in favour of Scottish independence, if anyone is counting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Briefing in the press today that Leslie Evans will go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Briefing in the press today that Leslie Evans will go. She should go. She's an out and out shit stirrer who cares not a jot for the SNP, its aims and its aspirations. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I asked already but what’s the deal with Joanna Cherry? The red tops seem to be highlighting tweets she’s liking that are a bit suspect wrt Salmond. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: She should go. She's an out and out shit stirrer who cares not a jot for the SNP, its aims and its aspirations. As a civil servant she's meant to help the Government of the day as much as she can but she's not expected to care a jot, she's meant to be neutral. In what way has she been shit stirring? Do you think she should have told the complainants against Salmond to bugger off? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: As a civil servant she's meant to help the Government of the day as much as she can but she's not expected to care a jot, she's meant to be neutral. In what way has she been shit stirring? Do you think she should have told the complainants against Salmond to bugger off? Yes. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, NotThePars said: I asked already but what’s the deal with Joanna Cherry? The red tops seem to be highlighting tweets she’s liking that are a bit suspect wrt Salmond. Can you give us some examples? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 34 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Yes. I really hope you’re kidding. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I really hope you’re kidding. Up to a point. Somehow I detect the whiff of conspiracy in this case. I met Salmond a few years ago. He held a door open open for me and generally behaved like a perfect gentleman. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Can you give us some examples?https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17352964.senior-snp-mp-likes-tweet-calling-for-alex-salmond-to-return-as-leader/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Up to a point. Somehow I detect the whiff of conspiracy in this case. I met Salmond a few years ago. He held a door open open for me and generally behaved like a perfect gentleman. [emoji4]Probably just used the opportunity to get a fly look at your arse or something. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, NotThePars said: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17352964.senior-snp-mp-likes-tweet-calling-for-alex-salmond-to-return-as-leader/ Maybe she got a loan o Fluffys fat thumb. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 29 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Yes. You condone sexual harassment? Wow! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, NotThePars said: I asked already but what’s the deal with Joanna Cherry? The red tops seem to be highlighting tweets she’s liking that are a bit suspect wrt Salmond. Can't find much about Salmond after a quick scan of her twitter feed, but it's full of puff RTs saying how brilliant she is. Sounds more like she wants Sturgeon's job for herself than getting Salmond back in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: You condone sexual harassment? Wow! Of course not, but he hasn't been convicted of anything yet. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 31 minutes ago, Loondave1 said: 47 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Up to a point. Somehow I detect the whiff of conspiracy in this case. I met Salmond a few years ago. He held a door open open for me and generally behaved like a perfect gentleman. Probably just used the opportunity to get a fly look at your arse or something. Actually he could have got an eyeful of more than that. I was having a pee at Embra Airport and didn't realise who the guy who had been stood next to me was, until he held the door open for me. I tend not to look at fellow peers in these circumstances, preferring to concentrate on the matter in hand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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