welshbairn Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Kuro said: They make it so you can just decide you're female and that's it you're legally female, without the need for any involvement from.any health professional or any supporting documentation. You can even change day to day if you're gender fluid. Making it illegal.for anyone to block access to any female only space to anyone who simply says they're female. And making anyone who objects to that a transphobe and liable to criminal prosecution and dismissal from their job. You have no idea what you're supporting. Sexual harassment and flashing is illegal full stop, whoever's doing it. That's not going to change. Edited June 15, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 The proposed changes to the law just make the process of changing your registered gender less cumbersome and bureaucratic. If trans people were going to suddenly spread fear across the land by waving their willies at women everywhere they'd already be doing it, and the papers would be full of it. Instead all you get is Bath boy RTing some fucked up American alt right anti feminist incel and trying to frighten everyone into thinking that's what your average trans person is like.Well no he's not, he's pointing out that there is a difference between a genuinely trans person who needs all the support and protection that society can offer and a bearded pervert. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 If people would stop quoting them, that'd be just swell. Yeah, I mean Baxter is doing what he done last time where he insinuates that trans women are delusional men and Pep is clearly three kids stacked in a trench coat so it’s a waste of energy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Sexual harassment and flashing is illegal full stop, whoever's doing it. That's not going to change. How do you prove it in a changing room with one person's word against the other? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Just now, Kuro said: How do you prove it in a changing room with one person's word against the other? Same way as now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The proposed changes to the law just make the process of changing your registered gender less cumbersome and bureaucratic. If trans people were going to suddenly spread fear across the land by waving their willies at women everywhere they'd already be doing it, and the papers would be full of it. Instead all you get is Bath boy RTing some fucked up American alt right anti feminist incel and trying to frighten everyone into thinking that's what your average trans person is like. But how can they already be doing it? Where would that happen? This law changes that, that's the point. And he's actually rting feminists from the UK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Sexual harassment and flashing is illegal full stop, whoever's doing it. That's not going to change.It's going to be a lot easier if perverts can legitimately go to places where women should feel safe, isn't it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Just now, welshbairn said: Same way as now. But it can't happen nearly as much just now as the law prevents it. You support a law that will change that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Just now, Kuro said: But it can't happen nearly as much just now as the law prevents it. You support a law that will change that. The law does not change access rules. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Yeah, I mean Baxter is doing what he done last time where he insinuates that trans women are delusional men and Pep is clearly three kids stacked in a trench coat so it’s a waste of energy.f**k that shit, I'm deliberately and carefully making the distinction between trans people and perverts. Part of the problem is the smearing of anybody that raises the slightest question with the issue in order to shut down debate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The law does not change access rules. Yes it does, are you on the windup? This is why we're discussing this, the new law allows any man in the world to simply say 'I'm female' and they can walk right in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Kuro said: Yes it does, are you on the windup? This is why we're discussing this, the new law allows any man in the world to simply say 'I'm female' and they can walk right in. You really need to watch Mhairi Blacks speech on page one of this thread. I obviously can't compete with Bathboy's paranoid propaganda, maybe she can. I'm out. Edited June 15, 2019 by welshbairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: You really need to watch Mhairi Blacks speech on page one of this thread. I obviously can't compete with Bathboy's paranoid propaganda, maybe she can. You really need to read the law you're defending. I saw her speech at the time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 The law which is opposed by 82% of the public btw, including the vast.majority of women. I suppose theyre all just bigots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Just now, Kuro said: You really need to read the law you're defending. I saw her speech at the time. Watch it again, and take notes this time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Just now, welshbairn said: Watch it again, and take notes this time. Read the law first. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kuro said: Read the law first. It hasn't been published yet so why are you pretending to have read it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: It hasn't been published yet so why are you pretending to have read it? We know what's in it. Google it. The clue is in the name. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 We as in you and Wings presumably. Strange that while you go apoplectic when anyone ever offers any mild criticism of the SNP, as soon as Bathboy disagrees with them you're out with the SNPbad hysteria with a pitchfork. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 We as in you and Wings presumably. Strange that while you go apoplectic when anyone ever offers any mild criticism of the SNP, as soon as Bathboy disagrees with them you're out with the SNPbad hysteria with a pitchfork.Interesting, as soon as you run out of answers you attack the poster.What point do you think you're making here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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