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Monarchy and an Independent Scotland


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Imagine we vote for independence, there is a big fanfare and event around the re-convening of the Parliament and then the Queen does a wee day-trip up to give us our independence and make our democratically elected MPs swear an oath of allegiance to her. That would not go down well at all. Independence campaign would very easily become a republican campaign.

Seize the Crown Estate and the Palace of Holyroodhouse as the residence for our President (maybe call it Toiseach like our Irish brother call their PM) - President should just spend all his time promoting Scotland and Scottish culture, invite all world leaders and billionaires round to get pished on Scotch whisky. dine on Scottish salmond, helicopter trips up to the Highlands. Watch the inward investment of USD and RMB roll in.

 

 

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50 minutes ago, BawWatchin said:

There are two acts to consider. The 1707 Act of Union and the 1603 Union of the Crowns.

Independence abolishes the 1707 act, but not the 1603 act.

Although it's hard to see the 1603 act remaining in place for too long after. Once auld Lizzy pops her clogs the games a boggy. Don't think Willy or Harry are interested in taking over the throne.

 

King Billy could be a popular choice in parts of the Glasgow area and beyond.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/11/26/scotland-independence-pound-drwho_n_4341930.html

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Was Liz not also crowned Queen in Edinburgh with the Scottish regalia as well as in Westminster. We could always call her Queen Elizabeth the First of Scots after Independence and then go for a President after that. Someone like Billy Connelly or Andy Murray, internationally known and not a politician.

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7 minutes ago, Dunfermline Don said:

Was Liz not also crowned Queen in Edinburgh with the Scottish regalia as well as in Westminster. We could always call her Queen Elizabeth the First of Scots after Independence and then go for a President after that. Someone like Billy Connelly or Andy Murray, internationally known and not a politician.

Billy Connelly has been a unionist for too long to even be considered, he's only recently changed his mind slightly cause the writing is on the wall.

Andy Murray is a true Son of Wallace so would be a good choice. 

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2 hours ago, ForzaDundee said:

Imagine we vote for independence, there is a big fanfare and event around the re-convening of the Parliament and then the Queen does a wee day-trip up to give us our independence and make our democratically elected MPs swear an oath of allegiance to her. That would not go down well at all. Independence campaign would very easily become a republican campaign.

Seize the Crown Estate and the Palace of Holyroodhouse as the residence for our President (maybe call it Toiseach like our Irish brother call their PM) - President should just spend all his time promoting Scotland and Scottish culture, invite all world leaders and billionaires round to get pished on Scotch whisky. dine on Scottish salmond, helicopter trips up to the Highlands. Watch the inward investment of USD and RMB roll in.

 

 

 

 

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Was Liz not also crowned Queen in Edinburgh with the Scottish regalia as well as in Westminster. We could always call her Queen Elizabeth the First of Scots after Independence and then go for a President after that. Someone like Billy Connelly or Andy Murray, internationally known and not a politician.
As the first Elizabeth of Scotland she wouldn't need a regnal number, she'd just be Queen Elizabeth.
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4 hours ago, Dunfermline Don said:

Was Liz not also crowned Queen in Edinburgh with the Scottish regalia as well as in Westminster. 

Yes, watch it here...

https://movingimage.nls.uk/film/1113

Given that she's descended from the Stuarts, Liz probably should have to move her permanent residence to Scotland after independence.

 

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Allowed to continue if she accepts that the new royal residence is a council house in Whitburn and she is able to get along OK with her new neighbours Rab and Senga. More serious answer would be to be like Canada and retain them as it's too much of a hassle to replace them but largely tune them out.

Doubt independence is happening any time soon though. The penny hasn't dropped yet that hard Brexit genuinely could mean needing a passport to go to Carlisle. Seriously doubt Scotland has the bottle for that.

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9 hours ago, ForzaDundee said:

Imagine we vote for independence, there is a big fanfare and event around the re-convening of the Parliament and then the Queen does a wee day-trip up to give us our independence and make our democratically elected MPs swear an oath of allegiance to her. That would not go down well at all. Independence campaign would very easily become a republican campaign.

Seize the Crown Estate and the Palace of Holyroodhouse as the residence for our President (maybe call it Toiseach like our Irish brother call their PM) - President should just spend all his time promoting Scotland and Scottish culture, invite all world leaders and billionaires round to get pished on Scotch whisky. dine on Scottish salmond, helicopter trips up to the Highlands. Watch the inward investment of USD and RMB roll in.

 

7 hours ago, Donathan said:

 

 

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To show the world how totally non anglophobic an independent Scotland is. I think it's only right that we elect this man as our first head of state.

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Proper heads gone for those still shedding tears into their butchers aprons.
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16 minutes ago, BawWatchin said:

To show the world how totally non anglophobic an independent Scotland is. I think it's only right that we elect this man as our first head of state.

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I don't think so...

 

He joined Everton in July 2001 after winning his battle against cancer, and after his Celtic contract expired. On his arrival at Goodison Park, Stubbs stated it had always been his dream to play for the club. Stubbs confirmed at the time part of his motive for moving to Everton was that he wanted to return home to his native Merseyside with his wife Mandy.[19]

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2 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

 

I don't think so...

 

He joined Everton in July 2001 after winning his battle against cancer, and after his Celtic contract expired. On his arrival at Goodison Park, Stubbs stated it had always been his dream to play for the club. Stubbs confirmed at the time part of his motive for moving to Everton was that he wanted to return home to his native Merseyside with his wife Mandy.[19]

If he bins Mandy for a proper Scottish wid, would you reconsider?

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14 hours ago, Lurkst said:

Yes, watch it here...

https://movingimage.nls.uk/film/1113

Given that she's descended from the Stuarts, Liz probably should have to move her permanent residence to Scotland after independence.

 

Where is the Stuart connection? if there is one it must be tenuous given that she is directly descended from The Hanovarian George the 1st who when chosen over the Stuarts by the english government was 74th in line to the throne but the fact that he was protestant gave him favour over the Stuarts, in fact her grandmother Queen Mary was German and the family were initially known as the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha until they changed it in the first world war to Windsor. Her family is littered with germans and about twenty years ago she wanted to confer the title The Duke of Cumberland on a german cousin of hers but backed down due to the furore raised by Scots.

I can only think that it is through her mother's family the Bowes-Lyons, the Bowes however were from Northumberland and made their money in coal mines, the Lyons I'm not so sure about.

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